2025 Tacomas

Yes it is, and it's dated September 9, 2024. Am I supposed to believe Toyota only produced ~2,000 Tacomas ***with a bad transmission*** from Dec or Jan until the problem was reported to Toyota in June? ( C&D ) Not all Tacomas are affected, but I find it hard to believe the number is 2,000.

A lot of people, including myself have owned several Tacomas over the years. For me, it's about dependability and resale value, and that hasn't changed, but I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and ignore the facts.

 

What if Toyota made a change in production or parts sourcing but there was a delay to the TSB? That’s exactly how a problem gets dealt with in large manufacturing companies

 

Assuming they did, how many Tacomas does Toyota produce in one month? 20,000?

 

When ramping up production in the early days, who knows, probably less. Confounding the issue is different specific parts batches or assembly techniques/tools being used at different times and/or on different lines. With constant improvement in the manufacturing process, it’s pretty hard from the outside to make any declarative statements about which trucks are affected and how

 

your assumption is flawed. You are assuming that Toyota on has parts made on one assembly line by the exact same employee rather than multiple lines and by multiple shifts of employees. It is not that hard for them to track down where the problem is and which transmissions that could be affected.

 

It’s clear that I’m referencing transmission failures in both paragraphs of my response. If you have FB posts re transmission failures post September 13, please share them.

 

I was simply pointing out your flawed argument that they’re only reported here. I’m not gonna dig through countless Facebook groups to prove my point.

 

opinions for sale....

 

I reread my original post and I did I’d not use the word only, so therefore I made no such argument.

I put in 3 combinations of Tacoma, Transmission and 4th Gen in Google search. Depending on the order of the wording, top results were Tacomaworld, Tacoma4G and Reddit. Tacomaworld being the #1 search result. I re ran that search and the only way I could get a Facebook hit was by including the word Facebook in the search.

I’m open to the possibility that the algorithm doesn’t send me Facebook results because I don’t have a Facebook account.

So far, the only 4th Gen transmission failure I can find posted after the TSB is the one on Reddit that we’ve previously discussed here.

 

I made no such assumption. My post lacked specificity because I didn't feel the need to state the obvious. The serial numbers listed in the TSB are as high as 12,286 (Guanajuato) and 43,849 (Baja). Vehicles produced prior to the change (12,286 and 43,849) could be affected.

 

A Tacoma owner reported a power train issue to the NHTSA on December 16, 2024. The owner stated he is within the TSB range. There are other complaints also filed in December.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2024/TOYOTA/TACOMA/PU%252FCC/4WD

 

There we go. That’s useful information. Thank you.

 

GX costs too much and the Land Cruiser is hybrid only in the US. They lost a sale with me. Never going to buy one. Even at 8k off. i’m guessing they will probably bury this model pretty soon when the 4runner steals all of its sales then some corporate idiot will wonder why it failed. “We gave you a land cruiser that’s affordable and capable off-road with the one drive train option nobody wants, how could it fail? And dealers were marking them up $20,000 when they first came out until the bottom fell out of the market and now they’re discounting them 5 to 8K.”

I’m waiting for the new 4runners to come out and will probably wait until a few months when new ones are sitting on the lot to give them a lowball offer.

 

From our extensive homework but deciding no, I repeated reading/hearing/seeing USA new Land Cruiser will be low volume, and 4Runner will not be sold all over the world where Prado has been sold.

In just my small circle of associates I already know the Jeep hybrid recall on top of their collective Jeep/Stellantis SFQ problems sold a pair of 1958 versions.

If nothing bizarre or catastrophic shakes the economy I will doubt seeing cost reversals many expect and imagine. I can say from where I am in a really big food company we can't change Mother Nature and can't go backwards with so many first line, transportation and service workers who've had wage increases. If anything we still need to keep increasing wages. All over employers still struggle filling skills and brain power jobs. If we get a huge economic dip with bargains just age and perspective with age could make my boomer generation and people close behind hesitant to buy them.

From our having early reservations I can also say not many of those new Land Cruisers sold with the extreme markups. By July the day I met my Tacoma coming off truck we had a Land Cruiser choice too. The dealers said small numbers for each sold that way. It was even clear as a shopper.

 

I don’t understand why we now have 2 Prados in the US which are no longer badge engineered models like with the 200 series. Lexus now only has the 300 series. And the Land Cruiser will get drowned out by the 4Runner.

My peers bought the GX overtrail which seems to be a big hit. I just can’t justify the cost.

 

I can only guess what I'm sure Toyota knows or at least has more data for their guessing. They've also had a better record than some others for following a generation of humans age.

The younger or gen jones or 2nd 1/2 of boomers are and spend differently. Who are good earners with regards to educational attainment skill has changed. Women have huge consumer influence now because they're rather broadly doing better than men.

That is all getting quite removed from the topic here where at lest to me there is little surprise with how unchanged a '25 is from a '24.

 

My neighbor was pulling a new GX 460 into their garage christmas eve. I went by two Toyota dealers this morning they both had a good number LC 250s out front.

Side note, the Tesla dealer is looking like the domestic lots, pick ups all over the place and nobody to buy them.

 

Big discounts should stick around too. My local dealer is already advertising 9K off a 2025 Tundra.

 

If l am not mistaken they made the tow hitch part of the frame instead of it being a bolt in item. That really doesn't seem too smart when considering a minor rear collision could cause an entire frame replacement or total loss of the vehicle.

 

I think some TW members have said their 4th Gen insurance is lower than their 3rd Gen insurance. This might change if frame data comes into play with insurance companies.