255/80 and 265/75, beat this dead horse a little more.

Hey folks. Time to purchase some new rubber soon.

Looking for information from those who actually have experience with this, please no "I've heard he said that she said that they said he said something."

Running Fox's and TC arms up front set at about 2" above stock, and an AAL in the rear roughly 2", but that doesn't really matter here. Staying on the stock OR 16s and preferring to not use any spacers.

The original idea was to go with a 265/75R16 in a Duratac (E's), but the thought of a 33" with a 255/85R16 is a bit of a turn on, specifically the Toyo Open Country M/T.

From all of the search magic and reading through many similar threads. I have come to the conclusion that the 255's will fit with the stock OR wheels with no, to very minimal rubbing when flexing. The truck's not a starbucks cruiser, we hit the trails as often as possible, and the more I find the truck to be capable of, the more I push it. Because of that, the additional height of the 255's sounds quite appealing.

Usage will be primarily desert and woodland trails. Not really any sand runner stuff, so the width isn't much of a concern to me. I've seen folks with Duratracs on here, and it's like everything else, preference. Does anyone have experience with the Open Country's or this size in general on oe-OR wheels?

285/75R16 are completely out of the question, don't bring them up.

 

I went from 285/70/17 to 255/80/17 .. much happier with the 255. Truck feels lighter right off the bat. Only issue im having is rubbing on the frame but installing spacers tomrrw. I have a king 2.5 lift with tc uppers.. also some rubbing on the plastic but ill trim that later . I havent took them off road yet but know a few people who have and they have gone the distance so far no problems

Edit: i have the coopers maxxs

 

Another thing to consider depending on the types of trips you do is replacements, 255/80 aren't nearly as common as 265/75. So depending on where you go if the need arises it may be difficult to source a replacement.

 

Are those toyo open country mt tires you're looking at e rated?

I would find out what each tire weighs...

 

I just put some 255's on mine and they look awesome but I have not done any off roading yet so I can't talk to the rubbing concerns.

 

well toyo mt over duratracs anyday sooo

 

Here's my thread so I'm not going to retype a bunch of stuff: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...r-wheels-and-suspension.491079/#post-15136294

For your purposes, I looked long and hard at the Toyo's before I decided on KM2s. The deciding factor was weight. Those Toyo's are boat anchors.

I've had mine offroad and they didn't rub any, and did great on sandstone, as well as in mud and water. There is a picture in that thread with an example of another guy who flexed his out pretty good and his only rub was on his mud flaps. Once he took those off, no problems

I WILL say if you havent had a MT tire before and you are one to notice tire noise, you may want to consider what your tolerance is there. These are not quiet tires. I'm pretty 'whatever' about it because I usually drive with my windows down and radio up anyway, but one day I had a headache and it was not helping my mood lol

 

They are E-rated, which is a plus to me. Weight is bad, the Toyo's are 60lbs each. The Duratracs are 51lbs each.

It'll suck to get either of them rolling, but the height and weight should keep them rolling nicely at 70mph.

 

Thank you for that, good info in your thread. The BFG's are something like 55lbs aren't they?
I don't mind the noise at all, actually I kind of dig the sound MTs make. The Toyos are actually quite quiet on road from my experience with some friends with Jeeps.

 

I need to see some pics of the 255s. I hear they are the new hotness.

 

Yes, they are 55 pounds each. I'm actually seriously considering not running a spare since they're 10ply E's and recovering most of the weight gain over my wranglers day to day, then throwing the spare in the bed when I go wheel. I don't feel like anything I run over on-road with these will puncture them badly enough I can't get home.

There's a fair number of pictures in my thread linked above

 

It's not a terrible idea, but keep in mind that it's not so much the static weight of them that screws everything up, it's specifically the rotational mass. So, sure you'll take 54 lbs out of under the bed, but that doesn't change the extra 20 lbs you're trying to get spinning at each corner. At that point, when you find the 10" piece of rebar that a jackass CalTrans worker left on the road, which punched through the center of the tread and punched a hole in your aluminum wheel (I used to manage a tire/repair shop and it's incredible the shit you find inside of a tire, including 10 and even 12 ply tires. A +5k lb vehicle moving at 65mph is an awful lot of force. Don't travel without a spare.) You'll have really wished you didn't take the spare out of the truck.

Just my .03

Thank you again for the info in your thread. I'm pretty set now on the 255 route. Now it's just a matter of which tire. I do like the open country, but they are heavy as all hell.

 

Why would you get the duratracs in E load? They are available in that size in a C load.
I had them on my truck, and were very light.
My wheel and tire combo was around 65lbs.
They wore badly tho cause I got lazy with the rotations. I have no experience with the pizza cutters, but I have friends I wheel with that has them, they do just fine on the trails.

 

The shop I used to manage flew a Goodyear flag. The Duratracs are a good tire, but we saw plenty of problems with the C rated, but never the E's. Thinks like the tire being just plain unbalanceable, uneven/poor wear patterns regardless of air pressure and rotation frequency, as well as a few belt edge separations.

Also, I prefer the idea of a 10 ply vs a 6 ply tire (by the way, that's an "equivalent" rating, not actual plies). Not that I intend on finding out how thick they are the hard way, but it's a piece of mind kind of thing. It's a bit more supportive when aired down, as well as more impact resistant. I wish I trusted the C's more. They're a better price, and lighter. But again, I'm pretty set now on the 255's, so Duratracs are out of the running now.

 

One more poke with the stick?

Anyone have any experience with the Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx ? Pretty much set on the pizza cutters, now just choosing the meat.

KM2 - lightest @ 54.4 lbs, I've heard the sidewalls on these aren't the strongest which is a concern for me. Also, least amount of on-road grip from what I've researched.
Open Country MT - heaviest @ 60 lbs, have the most durable sidewalls. Have a decent amount of on-road traction, and good tread life.
S/T Maxx - middleweight @ 59 lbs. Don't know much about the, never dealt with Cooper. Research tells me that they're a pretty formidable tire with a good balance of on/off-road traction.

Anyone?

 

My research (which was basically reading a ton of reviews on Amazon/tire rack/Jeep and truck forums) said the sidewall on the KM2s was more flexible but I never saw it called "weak". It was preferred by people over the toyos and Cooper's who offroaded alot the sidewall flexibility made them better at running aired down. I haven't noticed traction probs with my KM2s yet but I also haven't driven them in really bad rain yet. Cooper makes solid tires, I didn't like the way the Maxx's look or I would have probably gone there.

 

Sorry, that's definitely my bad way of putting that. I didn't mean that they were "weak", but rather softer and with less additional tread lugs, extending not as far onto the sidewall. I don't mean to knock on them by any means, I know they're a well respected tire, and they're still obviously in the runnings for me (not like there's too many choices though).

 

personally the st maxx isn't even in the same class as the toyo mt, I would take a look at the stt pro instead

 

not available in 255