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265/75/16 and 0 offset?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Codeman2828, Feb 16, 2022.

  1. Feb 16, 2022 at 4:20 PM
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    I have a 2002 4x4 TRD and I was curious if anyone has 265/75/16 tires on 8” wide wheel with 0 offset? Any running at all, at full lock? I used the search function but only found 2nd gen and 3rd gen responses.
     
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    0 offset on an 8" wide wheel is 4.5" backspacing, which is the stock backspacing for a 1st gen Tacoma.

    So, You should be just fine, with your wheels (and tires) extending approximately 1" further "out" as compared to stock wheels, which are 7" wide with 4.5" backspacing.
     
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    I have Fox 2.0 front and rear. SCS F5’s in 16x8 0 offset and 4.5 backspacing on 265-75-16 and I barely rub. Nothing crazy just going into the driveway or backing into a parking space
     
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    Going with the same setup this summer on an 03 DCSB TRD... without the lift. Hopefully there won't be much rubbing. I may have to at least test the fronts when it warms up a bit.
     
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    I’m looking at some rims 16x10 with 4.5 backspacing -25mm offset. I’m looking to pair it with 265/75/16 tires. I should be ok right?
     
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    Those are pretty wide (as compared to stock). The wider the wheel, the more you risk rubbing at the rear corner of the fender flare/wheel well. In your case, it'll be like running a 3" spacer on stock rims.

    To get a sense of how that affects geometry, you can read this article. It talks about all the various elements that go into fitting tires/wheels on our trucks; what causes rubbing, and how to deal with it.

    https://adventuretaco.com/what-size-tires-fit-my-lifted-tacoma/

    Look for this sections:
    • And a bit of background on wheel positioning...
    • Tire (and wheel) width also affects positioning...
    [​IMG]

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    I just put 265/75 on my bone stock DC last week. I did a bit of initial trimming of the front fender liner (back of the wheel well, inboard) and that eliminated any day to day rubbing.

    Before wheeling I’ll be giving the pinch weld a bit of attention. I’ll be installing new coilovers today or tomorrow so im waiting to do it all at once.

    Moral of the story, they fit with just a tiny bit of help.

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    05C59AFD-CBA5-4542-AF42-83B801984E2C.jpg I went 265 75 16 and I rub just a bit
     
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    I have a 98 2.7 4x4 with ome nitrochargers and 880 coils and a add a leaf in the rear. I put on some ar172 16x8 with 0 offset wrapped with 265/75/16. There is the tiniest bit of rubbing on the drivers side at full lock but it’s not even noticeable.
     
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    Eh, an 8" wide wheel with zero offset is 4" backspacing.

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    265/75r16 BFG KOs here, with stock wheels.

    My tires rubbed the frame at full lock until I got new UCAs and re-aligned it, which pushed the wheel farther from the frame. Spacers or less backspacing would effectgively do the same thing.

    So an 8" wheel with 0.5" LESS BS than stock I'm sure that would be fine. But the outside of the wheel would end up 1.5" (= 1" wider rim + that extra 0.5" from the offset) closer to the fenders.
     
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    Looks to me like 8", 0mm offset is 4.5" BS.

    While wheel backspacing is the distance in inches from the mounting surface to the inside edge of the wheel - as shown in your diagram - a wheel's width is from the mounting points of the tire beads, which is usually about an inch wider than spec. An 8" wheel will measure 9" from side to side, this makes converting offset to backspacing not so straight forward. If an 8" wheel has a center offset the backspacing is not 4", it is actually 4.5". upload_2022-3-14_8-27-45.jpg
     
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    I have that exact setup and even with a bunch of pinch weld hammering I get a touch of rub at full lock under compression. No rubbing on the street but occasionally a bit when bouncing around.

    916D7505-7671-4E6D-9156-49D024F4A387.jpg
     
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    So 2 + 2 =/= 4

    okay, lol

    :facepalm:
     
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    Well, a 33" tire is pretty much never 33" either.

    It's important that people understand how all this stuff works, which is why there are calculators on sites like the one I linked at tiresize.com. And why they go to all the trouble to explain it.

    You can see it on pretty much any manufacture's website, where they list both offset and backspacing. 8" wheels with 0mm offset are 4.5" backspacing.
     
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    I know, I'm just being facetious.

    The problem is any time I've seem those diagrams they don't bother to specify the difference between the inboard/outboard measurements, so it's understandable to be confused about the math. Functionally speaking, I don't see a point in using the outside of the wheel anyway. It's the mounting surface that dictates the position of the tire anyway. So unless you roll with extreme bro stance, your tire is wider than the wheel anyway.

    But since when do industry standards actually make sense in the grand scheme, lol.

    I shouldn't need to google some online wheel calculator to figure out that 8 / 2 apparently = 4.5.
     
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    My "stock" was in reference to the backspacing.

    Stock 1st gen (alloy, at least) wheels are 7" wide, with 4.5" backspacing (or nearly, obviously being from Japan, it's some metric near-equivalent).

    Edit: I see I mentioned this in the second paragraph of what you quoted, hahaha! :thumbsup:
     

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