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285s and Bilstein 5100

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by WONGOnumeroUNO, Sep 16, 2010.

  1. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:02 PM
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    WONGOnumeroUNO

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    Goal: 285s :D

    Step 1) Bilstein 5100s

    Step 2) ?????:confused:??????, obviously i would need 2.5" lift to clear 285s (with trimming) but what route should i take... what gives the least harsh ride?

    • set front Billys at 2.5"
    • set front Billys at 0"... with Daystar 2.5" Leveling Kit and Rear Block (about $150)
    some have said Billys at 2.5", although stiff due to compressed spring, still rides better than 2.5" spacer. True? while others will counter that the spring is actually more compressed than a spacer would, thus the spacer rides better...True? SO WHAT'S THE DEAL? obviously everyone will backup their setup, but for those looking into the lift... whats the best route?

    i was originally gonna go with Billys at 0" and buy Daystar Comfort Ride (2.5" Leveling Kit with Rear Block)... any thoughts?:confused:

    i'd appreciate any feedback

     
  2. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:04 PM
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    ColtsTRD

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    I'm just gonna do billys set at 2.5 for now...I don't care about ride quality though
     
  3. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM
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    spacers suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM
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    (nice build)

    so you originally had a 3" Front Spacer with 1.5" Pro Comp AAL, then swapped out the spacer for Billys at 2.5"?

    did u notice any difference?
     
  5. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:19 PM
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    I just ordered the billys and haven't got em yet. But I agree with the guy up top. Spacers are not the way to go...I just got em cause it was cheap but trust me man...just save a little loot and do a real suspension lift. I wish I would've done that to begin with :frusty:


    :edit: The spacers caused my stock shocks to top out because they had no more room for up travel when I hit a big hill going kinda fast and the seals blew
     
  6. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:22 PM
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    ^agreed!!! not enough suspension travel...lil wash boards caused front end to hop like crazy
     
  7. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:32 PM
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    gotcha, guys...

    now, if i do NOT plan on doing much off roading (minimal if that), do you suppose spacers are the way to go with billys at 0"? or just throw billys up at 2.5" solos?

    i guess at this point i want 285s and dont want a harsh-ride. (but i understand that any lift will decrease ride quality... i thought i counter that with Billys, but not the case)

    (the guys at 4wheelparts and other shops wna sell me on daystar spacer kit in addition to my billys at stock... i'm sure they're just tryin to make a few bucks off me)
     
  8. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:39 PM
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    go with billies set at 2.5 dont even think about spacers
     
  9. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:45 PM
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    Agreed on not going with any spacers and go with the billys set on 2.5 or buy an eibach coils with billys set on 0.85. This will give a better ride and will give just about 2.5 inches of lift. Also go with an AAL in the rear instead of a block.
     
  10. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:48 PM
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    ^my next set up!!! pretty soon plus all pro leaf pack
     
  11. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:54 PM
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    where can i get the eibachs???
     
  12. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:57 PM
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    toyteclifts.com has them. I have this coils set up at "0" and gave about 1.6 inches of lift. Love them!
     
  13. Sep 16, 2010 at 6:59 PM
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    can i buy them separate from the ultimate lift???
     
  14. Sep 16, 2010 at 7:03 PM
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    nm i foumd them...not bad...eibachs with billies set at 1.75 sound good???
     
  15. Sep 16, 2010 at 7:04 PM
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    They are sold separately and it is not part of the ultimate lift.
     
  16. Sep 16, 2010 at 7:16 PM
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    okay... we're gettin somewhere now... so,

    1) Billys set at 0.85"

    2) Eibach Coil Springs (~1.6" lift)

    • found them for about $150 on Toytec.com and eastsidecustomtruck; sounds like a much better investment then spacer kit
    • would i need anything else other than the springs? seems pretty straight fwd, just swapping out the springs.
    • also, this obviously will screw my ext warranty, right? but i'm thinking shops wouldnt even notice the difference in the springs...?
    3) Block ($40) vs. AAL ($80)

    • i dont plan on towing or any heavy cargo... so wouldnt i be okay with block?
    • 1" or 1.5" block"
    thanks sooo much guys... i'm gettin alot of answers... this has been driving me crazy, but i'd much rather do all correctly the first time around.
     
  17. Sep 16, 2010 at 7:19 PM
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    FYI... i came across this piece of info earlier today...

    ".85 is pretty much maxing out the pre-load. so if you try 1.75 you might extend the shocks too much"

    im under the impression you can only go 0.85" on billys with Eibach Coils
     
  18. Sep 16, 2010 at 7:29 PM
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    Nope, thats all you need. I would still go with the AAL because of the ride quality. It is only $40 differenece and it takes the same amount of installation compare to the blocks. Also you would need a new U-bolts if you go with the block and you will end up spending about the same as if you buy the AAL. Search on the Topics tab and click on suspension, you will find many info about these products and how to install them.
     
  19. Sep 16, 2010 at 7:34 PM
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    thanks guys!

    any thoughts on issues ext-warranty?
     
  20. Sep 16, 2010 at 7:45 PM
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    They may give you a hard time if you have any problems in your suspensions but the rest you should be okay. You are putting a better parts than the stock so you should be okay with any problems in the future. Just stay with 2.5 lift so that you don't run in to any problems later. Remember the higher you go, the more stress in your CV boots and might need an aftermarket UCA to correct any alignment issues.
     
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