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285s on stock 16" offroad wheels?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by anthemAnathema, Mar 8, 2021.

  1. Mar 8, 2021 at 2:01 PM
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    Howdy - First post here, spent some time searching but couldn't quite find the answer to this question.

    After lifting my truck, I'm considering putting 285/75/16 on the stock 16" wheels that came on my 2013 Offroad. Using the calculation I found on here, it looks like those wheels have about ~4.7" of backspacing and the factory reports 35mm of offset.

    However, with a 285 wide tire and ~4.7" of offset, I'm a bit worried about rubbing the UCA. New wheels are not in my budget anytime soon, so I'm leaning back to 265/75/16 but thought I'd see if
    anyone here has run and/or had problems with 285s on those Gen2 stock OR wheels?

    FYI - I'm totally OK with doing the CMC and hammering pinch welds, but not with spending $1200 on new wheels right now (if I can even find what I want in stock), and I'd prefer to avoid wheel spacers. Also, I'm running 2.5" of lift on extended travel Elka 2.5 DSC and light racing UCA. Current tires are 245/70/17 Duratracs on sport wheels from my old 2007 that, obviously, have zero rub issues.

    I know every Taco is different, and I spend a lot of time off road with this truck, so full stuff/articulation is vital.

    Thanks in advance for any help or shared experiences.
     
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    they would most likely rub the uca, mine did.
     
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    Stock wheels on 2013 TRD off road is +30 offset FYI

    285/75/16 will definitely rub on UCA. General consensus is you need +10 offset or lower to avoid UCA

    265/75/16 is good and you might also look into 255/85/16 (same height as 285/75/16 but narrower)
     
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    I have 285's on stock steelies. I believe most (all?) stock wheels have +30mm offset. The 285's will interfere with the uca, not really a way around this. I have 1" wheel spacers to combat this. I have yet to find an instance of a wheel spacer failing. The issues and reasons they get a bad rap is because of these bad boys:
    9162005_L_965042c7-9ddb-4f32-b716-dd696ccea00a.jpg
    DONT run a spacer like this. A good hub centric wheel spacer with properly torqued nuts and loctite will give you what you want.
     
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    Ah, thanks for the offset correction. Also for pointing out the 255/85 option which would have been my preference if load C duratracs were available in that size, or another winter rated AT tire so I can avoid needing to carry chains during winter here in CO.
     
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    I'm not really all that opposed to wheel spacers for durability/safety issues. My trail partner's been running spidertrax on his T4R for years with zero complaints, I just really value simplicity, so having to add wheel spacers, plus CMC, plus pinchweld hammering, plus greater unsprung mass, just for an extra inch of tire radius starts to add up and makes me chose the simplicity of the 265.
     
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    As a fellow Coloradan I agree the selection is kind of disappointing in 255/85/16. If BFG made a C rated KO2 in that size that would be my go to tire

    Another option is to get some 17" 4runner takeoff wheels (in my area they are widely available for $250) and get 255/80/17 Falken Wildpeak AT3w. Snow rated, 33", but does require switching wheels and they are E load

    Or stick with 265/75/16 as you mentioned in your original post - still a solid choice and gives up very little capability vs. a 33"
     
  8. Mar 9, 2021 at 7:18 AM
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    Here's another option boys and girls. Slap on a set of Tacoma Limited 18" wheels with Falken Wildpeak 265/70R18. Same width as stock. 33" diameter. SL rating. Triple win!
     
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    But he said.........

    And you do lose some sidewall with larger dia wheels. Some folks rather not do that.
     
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    I get it but check it. A set of wheels like this.

    https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/wto/d/san-leandro-4runner-gx460-wheels-and/7282994853.html

    Plus, the sidewall height is a percentage of the tire width. If the tire width stays the same (265), then the side wall height varies by the 5% difference between a 265/75 and a 265/70. Just trying to give options vs. spacers which IMO cause other issues when pushing the wheel outboard.
     
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    My suspension setup is stock. I have 285/75/R16 Duratracs on the stock wheels and went with 1.25in spacers all around (not necessary on the rear) to clear my UCA. I also did a CMC, plastic trimming, and massage of the pinch weld to get it to cycle off road with no issues but it's possible. Let me find a pic
     
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    What he said!
     
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    Yes it will rub.
    No don't do spacers they can compound other problems and are the cheap way out.
    I removed spacers and purchased proper 0 offset 16" rims and am HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY with the results.
     
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    I'm pretty set on sticking with 16" wheels, I really like having as much side wall as possible when aired down. If I was to go up in wheel size, to increase tire options, I'd probably stick with 17".

    In the end, I'm probably just gonna stick with 265s, having to mess around with a bunch of other mods for marginal gains in tire diameter is a hard sell when I need a new topper and rear leaf pack. I love the look of 285s, but small increases in offroad performance just ain't worth it.
     
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    I'd love to see how they look!
     
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    My thought here too. I'll have this truck for a long time and it's got a ton of life left in it (only at 58k miles right now). When I need new tires again in a couple years, I may go this route and do wheels and tires then. With $4k in suspension and (upcoming) $1200 in tires in the past two months, I just can't justify a wheel purchase right now, so 265s will do 'er for now.
     
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    That's what it's all about man. Enjoy your truck and build it how and when you can. I will say that the added 1" both in hight and width with the 285s is a lot more significant than expected (at least in my case). But you also will be paying for that in the initial purchase and then lost mpg. When I first bought new tires for my truck I went 235/85r16 and loved them. Next time I upped the ante and went 285's. In a lot of ways I miss the little skinnies.
    And here is my truck :)
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    I have photos with the 235's if you'd like to see that too.
     
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    A 1.25in spacer will center a +30mm offset to 0mm IIRC. I know some aren't fans of them but if you use a decent one (Bora/Spidertrax) and torque and Loctite them properly they should be fine (I haven't heard of folks running into issues).
     
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    One popular option are the wheels of the 4runner's of about 2000 vintage. I picked mine up for $25 apiece and then Cerakoted them. They give the perfect offset for 285's with no rubbing on my SPC upper control arms and come just to the edge of the wheel well without sticking out. I have a set of 255/85/16 studded snow tires that I run in the winter and they look pretty wimpy in comparison and are about an inch shorter and 2 inches narrower. Chances are I'll never run anything but the 285's, they seem like the perfect size to me.
    IMG_4695.jpg IMG_4783 (1).jpg
     
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    Personally if I was going to 285's I would go to a 17" wheel and get the lighter tires. The 16" tires weigh about 16lbs more EACH and that's a lot of extra weight to turn. With 17"s you can get both the LT and Regular tires. With 16"s only the LT.
     

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