2TR-FE supercharger stuff

Ok I’m fairly new here and late to the party I know but it seems like there may be another option for a roots style supercharger. I’ve been digging around for options other than rotrex and found this little guy. Its for the Toyota Hiace but fits the 2TR-FE engine. https://www.blackhawkjapan.com/en-us/products/blitz-10195. I emailed them pictures of my engine but was unable to verify fitment. I think the main difference is the ecu layout would be different on our USDM models. Granted this supercharger looks relatively small compared to the other unit posted in this thread but I’m assuming thats due to the layout of the hiace engine bay. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

Looks like you have the same model Taco as the Jack Ass below. I think being you have the same lighter weight Taco a DIY turbo would be the way to go…
He was told by the vendor that Magnuson was Supposed to ship blowers soon. They will then be able to ship out Magnuson kits.

 

Lol Hayrider we’re probably pretty close. I’m in SoCal close to AZ. Sounds like every other business since Covid hit everything is painfully slow. What tuning kit needs to be used with the magnusson blower? Haltech? Linkecu? Aem?
We’ve got a beams blacktop 3sge 6spd and we’re probably going with linkecu for that one. Ive heard great things about haltech.

 

Sorry, I’m stupid what’s an “beams blacktop 3sge 6spd”? I would love a Nissan CD009 or the new CD00A trans as 1st and the OD gears (5th & 6th) very close in ratios, just the Nissan has an extra gear.
Also well being you’re in So. Cali. then you should be close to LCE in Lake Havasu. Here’s a short video the tuner son made. You see what they use! Make sure to enlarge it and tab on the volume in the lower right corner.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CefIZv_g-6R/

 

2.0 200hp 3sge is the motor designation. It came in different flavors. The 3sgte was the turbo variant that came in the 2nd gen Mr2. The 3sge beams blacktop 6spd came in the Jdm Toyota altezza I believe. We’ve also got a 1st gen Aw11 Mr2 with a 20v Blacktop 4age for circle track racing. Picked the motors up out of jdm yards in LA and San Diego. Considering what they go for now we got them substantially cheaper way before 2018.
I’d love a Magnusson blower but it looks like playing the waiting game. I was just curious if anyone had any experience with Jdm versions as I’m sure there is minor variations between platforms. Im pretty sure the hiace has the cab over the engine like the old Toyota previa minivans. So the 2tr in the hiace probably has a more compact design on that application.

 

I truly don’t know if anyone here has any experience with JDM engine’s my best guess would be either @05Taco4x4 or @Torspd as they seem the most knowledgeable two *I* know of here. I think @BassAckwards has had the most experimenting with different power mods w/ the 2TR-FE.
This website is mostly 4x4 owners. With a lot of Over-lander’s w/ over size rubber, suspension, gears & lockers and camping.
Me I’m just an old fart trying to learn and pay others that are more qualified to do jobs that make me nervous, where I don’t have the experience, knowledge or proper tools. I’ve learned the hard way just to swallowed my pride and to pay somebody else to do things I have no experience with.
Other wise I do what everyone else is doing installing a GM LS or newer LT power plant w/ a Tremec 5 spd. Kind of hard to argue w/ 355 NA HP on reg. pump gas then a few little mods it’s easy to push 400 HP.

 

OK I am definitely late to this party but you guys should have some good info to share after this much time as passed and would appreciate any recommendations for the experienced folks on this thread. I recently purchase a low mileage 2016 tundra with the 2.7L with 6 speed auto and would like it to have just enough snot to run down the interstate in 6th gear at 80mph and shift no further down than to 5th if I do encounter a steep hill.

Are the URD blowers still a pos?
Are there any other supercharger manufactures that you would recommend?

Keeping in mind I am not looking for a race car but just a daily driver that doesn't downshift to 4th gear when using cruise control at todays interstate speed found in the grain belt of America. I wouldn't mind even if it could be reprogrammed to adjust the kick down so that it has drop say 5mph from 6th to 5th and another 10mph from 5th to 4th or if it just would be shift in to 4th while cruise is set until it gets to 60mph.

My last ditch effort if not options can be found, and I would really like to find one and keep the little 4 cylinder, will be to build a SBC 327 with a roller cam&rockers and drop that in it.----which will not be for a few years until after I retire so I can take the time and not try to work on it around my job.

Thanks all for your time.

 

LCE is about to release their Magnuson SC thats a twin screw. I would wait for that.

 

The simplest fix in your case might be a re-gear - swapping out the 3rd member for one with a different ratio. It’s a common mod on our 5-lug tacomas which came with a 3.31 ratio (manual trans), making 5th gear mostly useless on normal highway speeds. I’m not sure what the tundra came with but it might be likely you can just swap in another 3rd member from a junked tundra with a higher ratio, and they can probably be had for pretty cheap.

Here’s a YouTube video to describe the process if you need it:
https://youtu.be/oVODczYKVKY?si=stikj3ahTNMObfT6

Regarding the URD/Rotrex supercharger system, I had one and my opinion is the kit is poorly designed and prone to failure. I am hesitant to say it is the fault of the Rotrex as I do know they are run on other cars for many miles without issue. You can check the info I found and decide for yourself:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2tr-fe-supercharger-stuff.693777/page-3#post-27058399

 

Thanks for the info. If LCE is building something I will wait.
Mine is a 6 speed auto not a manual. I have heard of guys doing differently gearing swaps but in my opinion your just moving your problem to a different gear. So fifth becomes the one the pickup drops to and rubs 3800 rpm or so at 80mph versus 4th. If I am incorrect on that theory pleas let me know as I stated I have never had one of these before........well I did have an SR5 4x2 about 35 years ago with a 22R and manual 5 speed that generally went every where with the needle buried (i think it only went yo maybe 85) and never missed a lick.

 

Here’s some pics from their IG. They’ve been working on it for years. They said Preorders will start soon….

 

Here’s an option that’s intercooled but also requires tuning. If mine wasn’t turbocharged i would give this a try

https://vtsuperchargers.com/product...-2-7l-supercharger-kit?variant=47467469668642

 

Bassackwards--that looks like a pretty nice set up also as does the one Brian422 sent. They appear to be actual supercharges versus a modified Turbo.
One question on those small modified turbo looking ones, why do they go through all the complicated oiling system stuff versus just using a couple of good quality sealed bearings packed with something like Shell GadusRail S2 or Chevron Black Pearl grease? The reason I ask is because they won't be subject to the heat an actual turbo experiences, they don't spin at any speed faster than say the alternator or water pump and they should be sucking in fairly clean air and be basically sealed from induced contaminants. Even if you had to pull it and preemptively change bearings at a 100k miles would be much better than messing around with an oil system especially with the quality of grease they make today.
I knew a fair number of truckers who have ditched the front axle and trailer axle oil filled hub idea and just pack there wheel bearings with whatever flavor of synthetic grease, service them as you do regular greased wheel bearings and they have never looked back or had a problem. There issue is with the hub oil when a seal starts to leak, you are then also cleaning brake drums and buying new shoes for it.
I am kind of suprised there are not more of the URD type chargers out in the field being used and reviews on the internet about them if they are the bees knees for more power. I am very tempted but I really only want to do this once and have something that is reliable and longevity built in to it, for non hot rodding or racing purposes.

I sent URD an email asking them about there quality issue on the shaft that was original subject of this thread basically and they replied that the shaft issues was corrected years ago.
Anyway, thank you guys again for the tips, suggestions and info. I will anxiously be waiting for the release of the LCE to see what end up with.

 

One other note, I looked around on LCE website and if they can list the 2TR-FE charger for the $3.9k price of the other 4 cylinder that will be a sweet deal from what I have seen.

 

Not gonna happen at that price. Your getting a complete kit though with a new ECU and tune so cant really complain. Its a complete kit.

 

Ya i see that those listed for that are all 2004 and prior models.

 

one last question.....anyone have an opinion on Tidewater Customs, LLC, for tuning purposes?