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3 inch Lift on '01 Tacoma BOUNCY

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by NickyK808, May 9, 2017.

  1. May 9, 2017 at 9:36 AM
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    Hey All,

    I recently popped on brand new bilstein 5100's, got a new frame from Toyota under the recall that expired years ago!! and threw on a Daystar Comfortride 3" lift kit. Thought I would get a little decrease in the comfort of the ride and the handling but my truck is BOUNCY, it's worse while travelling slow and just going over small bumps in pavement, not like this is happening with potholes. I threw a boatload of groceries in the back the other day and the bouncing was 100% gone, felt better than it used to with the old worn out shocks/struts. Any ideas other than throwing a couple sandbags in the bed to quell the bouncing? Is this a sign something is wrong? Could it be the new leafs are super stiff? Any help much appreciated!
     
  2. May 9, 2017 at 9:38 AM
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    Well you added a spacer and block lift. Of all the lift options, this one is the worst for ride quality and performance.

    It's actually LOL-worthy they call it "comfort ride"... what a load of BS :rolleyes:

    Did the lift come with shocks? My guess is they are valved softer than your 5100s
     
  3. May 9, 2017 at 9:39 AM
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    If you torqued stuff up with the suspension in full droop, that would be a problem. If you did it properly, while under load, then yes, the springs are too stiff.
     
  4. May 9, 2017 at 9:43 AM
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    Toyota Stealership actually did the work for me because they were already taking apart the vehicle for the new frame. Is there a way to tell if they did it right? Is there an easy way to fix it if they didn't?
     
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    Yeah if you over torqued your shackles that may be a problem. I still think that maybe your 5100s are valved too stiff / aren't matching well with your springs. Also, AAL is generally going be rougher riding especially with no load.
     
  7. May 9, 2017 at 9:54 AM
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    Shackle torque is 67 ft lbs
     
  8. May 9, 2017 at 10:53 AM
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    The springs are too stiff. Even the stock leafs are meant for carrying load so they're stiff unloaded. An AAL is going to be stiffer than stock.
     
  9. May 9, 2017 at 11:02 AM
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    Was actually interested in a similar setup until I saw you were having issues with the ride, anyone suggest anything else for 2-3 inches of lift?
     
  10. May 9, 2017 at 11:07 AM
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    Thanks for all the feedback guys, I'm definitely not as skilled as all of you... Is there any way to dampen the bounce or just easiest to throw sandbags back there? The handling is on point once you weigh down the back but uneven pavement is killer right now
     
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    i have a progressive 3 leaf aal from wheelers and it feels pretty good. another thing to take a look at for bounce may be tire pressure. make sure the dealership did not overinflate your tires!
     
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    As soon as I saw the word "bouncy" in the title, I guessed it would be bilsteins...sure enough...

    I'll prob start a war here....and I realize it was a 4runner vs a Tacoma, but their front ends are near identical... but I tried the 5100s on my 3rd gen 4runner cause lotsa guys online were saying they were just amazing...but those things were the bounciest damn shocks I'd ever felt...not loose bouncy, but basketball bouncy...valving was nowhere near correct for that thing...I promptly swapped them out for Old Man Emu and was in heaven. I'll never give bilstein another look again.

    YMMV. :-/
     
  13. May 9, 2017 at 1:59 PM
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    Hahaha I actually have a '13 4Runner and put bilsteins on there and I love them!
     
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    And let me guess, OME coils on 5100's? I ran the stock coils at the max setting on my 5100's initially (200k on coils) and it's was god damned amazing. Street manners were perfect and the off road performance was something I'd never experienced before. Later I installed 3/4" preload spacers to match my over sprung rear end and now its bouncy again.
     
  15. May 9, 2017 at 2:53 PM
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    Nope. Tundra coils up front, LC coils out back. And I actually kept the Tundra coils on top of the OME shocks when I swapped (and kept the LC coils out back as well). (BTW, the tundra coils don't fit that well on the Tacomas in case anyone is wondering... they are a wider coil and the Tacoma vs 4Runner upper coil/shock bucket are different sizes--the 4runner's is just a touch larger, allowing for better fitment of the wider Tundra coil...)

    But this was just *my* personal experience....others will vary.... and anyone should obviously be able to see that there is just so many damn different setups, and opinions, and options... Just gotta find what you like for yourself. Unfortunately, there is no magic potion that just works for *everybody*. I chose to buy the bilsteins first, and paid again later for OME stuff. Gotta pay to play I guess. LOL
     
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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/stiff-rear-end-after-lift-you-got-the-wrong-shocks.471164/
     
  17. May 9, 2017 at 3:00 PM
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    So you're still using a very stiff spring on a shock build for something less which was my point - The 5100s are great as long as you follow the manufacturers suggestion and only use the factory Tacoma coils.
     
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    Oops. Shameless plug for my own findings then lol
     

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