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3" Lift w/ stock shocks

Discussion in 'Toytec Lifts' started by [kiesster], Aug 15, 2016.

  1. Aug 15, 2016 at 4:10 PM
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    [kiesster] [OP] Be water, my friend.

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    I believe the stock shocks are the same length of my bilstein shocks in the front. The coils provide most of the lift with the top spacers giving that extra inch of height.
     
  3. Aug 16, 2016 at 7:58 AM
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  4. Aug 16, 2016 at 11:41 AM
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    @ToyTec Lifts @tacomatrd22 thanks for the reply. I was always under the impression that when using longer coils, the stock shocks would be too short. What is the spring rate on these?
     
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    @ToyTec Lifts Is this package a better alternative to others that have chosen to use 3" strut spacers up front and a rear AAL (or rear block) in order to achieve a lift/level?

    Also, would I need to add the differential drop kit to this package? How does this package effect ride quality? I've also heard others discuss the need to change the UCAs in order to keep the front alignment within spec. Any off roading I do will be light and infrequent. Thanks in advance for any answers.

    Also considered this package:
    http://toyteclifts.3dcartstores.com...with-Bilstein-5100-Front-Coilovers_p_364.html
     
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    The first kit you mentioned is a good basic kit to get some lift at a decent price while still keeping the factory shocks. As for the second kit you mentioned, its going to be a great replacement for everything. An all together plug and play all new system. The 5100's that come with that kit will give you as close to stock ride as we can offer. The second lift you mentioned does also come with a diff drop and shims to bring the angles of the rear axle back to a good angle. Any lift you put on the vehicle will give you just a slightly stiffer ride that stock, but most people end up liking it due to less body roll. I do usually recommend UCA's with any lift over 2.5 inches to keep the alignment specs as close to stock as possible. We do sell fully adjustable SPC upper control arms that will give you the most flexibility when aligning your vehicle.
    Let me know if i can help any further-Justin
     
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    @ToyTec Lifts Thanks for the reply. I'm looking at the basic lift first mentioned in this thread (3" coils + AAL) to start with. It doesn't appear to come with the diff drop or rear axle shims so I assume I'll have to add those to the cart. Aside from UCAs... Do you recommend any additional accessories/necessary items to purchase that you think I might need?

    Also... Is the 3" coil package recommended instead of the 3" strut spacer package? Just curious. Pros and cons either way?
     
  9. Aug 22, 2016 at 10:11 AM
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    Everything should be good if you order all that no problems.
    As for the spacer vs the coils. The coils will give you the lift and in the end be a better ride quality overall. When you put the spacers in the coil you are preloading the springs to give you the lift resulting usually in a somewhat stiff ride. Pros about the spacer is that compared to other spacers on the market that fit on top of the strut, these go inside and end up keeping the OEM suspension geometry and will not put any undue stress on the CV's or steering.
    With the coils you wont be preloading anything making the ride better and the suspension will be able to fully cycle with a spring and shock combo.

    I noticed your profile says you have a 2016, the lifts you picked were for a 05-15 taco.
     
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    Spacer lifts have their pros and cons compared to a coil lifts. But if I were you I'd go with the coils.

    My main reason is that if you decide to improve your suspension later by ditching the stock shocks for some bilsteins, you'll already have the coils. If you go spacer lift and later you feel like improving your ride with some better suspension parts you would have just wasted the money on spacers.
     
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    Does this option exist for the 2016 models? Will the 2015 packages work with the 2016?
     
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    You're right. This is a great way to overextend your stock shocks and cause damage.
     
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    A lot of people do use the 15 model 5100's for the 16's and they do work and they do fit but the 16's are actually a heavier truck so when Bilstein does release a shock it will be valved differently. I couldnt garuntee the lift height that you would get as we have not tested it yet. We do have other options that will work that we have tested but as of now i probably would not recommend the 5100's we have for the 15 to be used on the 16.

    The spring rate would be 620lbs.
     
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    Exactly what I was thinking.
     
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    @ToyTec Lifts
    So what specifically are the options for the 2016 tacos that you have tested? Is there a coil option utilizing the stock shock? Is there a spacer/AAL specific to 2016? Links would be much appreciated!
     
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    Basically as of now everything that i have for the 16 will be a full coil-over:http://toyteclifts.3dcartstores.com/Front-Lifts-Coilovers_c_345.html
    Like i said Bilstein will release a shock for it but as of now i do not know exactly when.
     
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    @ToyTec Lifts .. So question I have a set of Stock coils and shocks from a 2016 Tacoma brand new and I have a 2010 Tacoma im curious if I can use that brand new shock with this ToyTec coil kit? Would this kit over extend the shocks and potentially cause damage while offroading?????
     
  18. Jan 12, 2017 at 10:31 AM
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    Which Toytec coil kit are you talking about? The shocks from a '16 are different than the shocks from a '10. The 16+ Tacoma's are a bit heavier than the second gens which means the valving on the new shocks are designed to hold the weight better.
     
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    Yes that should work just fine. Like i said the ride may slightly be stiffer due to the shocks being valved different, but will work.
     

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