33x12.5 on 5100s w/ stock coils (Yes I'm that guy)

I think he's talking about CVs.

Prerunner and 4x4 suspension IS identical. But when you lift a 4x4, you need to consider the CV angles. Going too high (usually over 2") and you start having issues with CV wear and tear. Diff drops and high angle CVs (and/or high angle boots) are the solution to that issue.

 

At that point, you're cutting, not bashing.

Yeah, there's a whole thread (or two) dedicated to fitting 35's
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/fitting-35s-on-3-suspension-lift.307596/

I think in there somewhere are some dudes with stock(ish) suspension. There's pros and cons to that. low CG, but your ground clearance (specifically break over) could be much improved with a ~3" lift.

35's are honestly has big as you should really be going on IFS. 37's you're gunna keep breaking shit unless you SAS. Then, 40s and tons or go home...

And even with 35's I'd suggest considering SAS.

 

You’ll be able to get them to fit with the spidertrax spacers and pinch weld mod/slight fender trimming. Aftermarket UCA’s will also help to get you higher caster numbers to push the wheel further forward on the well preventing rubbing at the back of your fender.

 

man, end of the day you have to think about do you want it now or do you want it right...with that ...what is right for you( ie. what do you want to do with the rig). If you want to wheel it body mods are coming one way or another. if you are looking at a daily with no body adjustments. wheel spaces, body lifts, and other half steps are available all over the google. other wise look into the builds that run 33's and find your set up

 

Had no idea I was a in the 1st Gen section.... Reading too many posts in separate tabs lmao. Cab mount chop doesn't apply here but pinch weld does along with all of my other points. As I attempted this road in a 1st gen pre runner on 5100s that I converted to 4wd and ended up going coilovers. Stock wheels cause my tires to rub UCAs so backspacing is going to play roll here also.

Im versed in multiple Gens and brands.

 

Replaced my CVs roughly a year ago. Truck has been at 2.5" the entire time. No tears yet fortunately.

 

Aftermarket UCAs are definitely in my future

 

Bigger tires are harder to fit, and wider tires are harder to fit. But when you go bigger and wider they are doubly hard to fit. If the 33 part is important and the 12.5 part not so much, go with a 33 x 10.5

 

Maybe 33x10.5 is a good option. I'm just a little scared about fitting a 12.5" wide tire on a 7" rim. Again seeing a lot of mixed responses about doing that

 

go 255/85r16, a 33x9.5 (or 10 depending on manufacturer)

The so-called pizza-cutters are a great tire size, better all around off-road performance in most conditions, less need for trimming/hammering, etc...

If you plan a lot of more-than-axle-deep mud snow,. skinnies aren't the best, but everything else they are generally better.

That's a bit of a misnomer.

With higher lifts, the stock UCAs are limited, and you can't get enough caster, so an aftermarket UCA does allow "more" caster, but really it's only to regain factory specs at whatever your new lift height is. You goal should almost always be the factory numbers, especially if it's a daily driver.

 

I like skinnies better for deep snow. They cut through, where wide tires ride on top. Yes, riding on top you can get farther, but at some point you will break through and be stuck really, really bad. With skinnies you cut through, and at some point you will be unable to continue. But you won't be stuck bad. In most cases you can just back out. I also like running tire chains. They cut through and really move a lot of snow.

 

yeah, skinnies cut down to where there is more firm ground, but in more than axle deep stuff, you usually want to try and float on top. You can usually try and back out of anything, but stuck is stuck.

 

Quit speculating and just do it

 

This may be very counterintuitive... but I think I'm just gonna go with the 12.5"s. Few reasons. They are a lot cheaper. They're easier to find if say I get a flat or have a blowout. And I like the 12.5" look. I don't mind the pizza cutter look, but nothing looks better than a 12.5" wide tire on a 1st gen IMO.

I also talked to a buddy of mine with a Jeep TJ. Said he's been running 33x12.5s on 15x7s for years. Only issue with that is you have to run a somewhat low tire pressure, which I'm not afraid of.

But thank you guys for the help. Much appreciated.

 

Also @jbrandt getting those LCA bushings done this weekend! Parts all finally arrived. Super excited to fix my crappy alignment. Especially before brand new tires go on

 

Maybe you misunderstood your friend with the jeep... or maybe just not giving the greatest advice (IMO).

The problem with wide tires and skinny rims is the tire folding over, and that would tend to get worse with lower pressure, and increases the chance of popping a bead.

There is a lot of physics involved with tire pressure and traction, but you want the contact patch to increase front to back, not side to side. You want the grip to be in line with the direction of travel (generally).

 

My post is based my personal experience of fitting 33x12.5x15 on my previous 2000 ext cab with TC Uppers. I was able to get 3.5* of caster which kept the tires off my trimmed up pinch weld. The truck drove great as a DD.

 

Factory specs are engineered to give specific driving characteristics, and IMO tire rub isn't a good enough reason to mess with those characteristics. It's a bandaid fix.

I've seen plenty of shitboxes (barely) driving down the road, so sorry if "truck drove great" isn't enough to convince me it's a good idea.

But you do you.

 

Nope, there is stuck and then there is STUCK. If you are floating on top of 4 feet of snow and brake through there is no backing out. Been there done that. Thought I was going to have to wait for spring to get it out. Had I been cutting through I wouldn't have gotten as far, but if I got stuck it would have been maybe ten minutes with a shovel. As it was, it was a two day rescue.

 

I guess you know it all. I’ll consult you with my next Tacoma build