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3d scanner

Discussion in 'General Automotive' started by soggyBottom, Sep 7, 2022.

  1. Sep 7, 2022 at 10:33 AM
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    soggyBottom

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    3d scanners are getting cheaper and cheaper. It would be awesome to make a group effort out of scanning various parts on the Tacoma.

    Creating a small database of scans would help those that want to design parts, suspension, etc. I'm not interested I'm making this a commercial effort but instead an enthusiast one by people who are designing parts to be shared and sent off to get laser cut.

    I don't think this thread is the place to share them. There are services like thingiverse that are free and allow uploads of 3d scans. Or maybe Tacomaworld has some feature like this. I'm open to any/all ideas.

    Does this sound interesting to anyone? Do you have any ideas to throw into the mix?

    Here is a small example of something I scanned. I would in the near future I would like to do the rear frame of the truck. Maybe design a 3 link using the scans

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  2. Sep 7, 2022 at 12:24 PM
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    Tried to use the LiDAR on my phone. Fun to play with but interested in the technology for sure 3447CCE2-1311-45CF-AD54-2F43760045CF.jpg
     
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  3. Sep 8, 2022 at 10:05 AM
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    I'm interested in this. I haven't got past 2d CNC plasma, but this is the next step for me.
     
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  4. Sep 14, 2022 at 10:55 AM
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    I can’t help with scanning but I can help with any CNC plasma cutting from scanned parts.
     
  5. Oct 13, 2022 at 5:20 PM
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    JMcFly

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    I need to figure out how to use the lidar on my iphone but a dedicated scanner would be much better for sure. Technology is always amazing me
     
  6. Oct 13, 2022 at 5:39 PM
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    Firn

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    Unfortunately the lidar is near worthless. It looks neat but the detail isn't enough.

    If you have an iPhone the FRONT lidar is actually better than the back. Pain to use but the scans are in higher detail.

    P
     
  7. Oct 23, 2022 at 9:31 PM
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    ayoung

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    I own a metrology services company called Sentinel 3D Scanning. We focus on high-accuracy 3D scanning for quality control and reverse engineering applications. I also happen to own a 1st gen. Tacoma. As I get time, I will be scanning, reverse engineering, and printing some parts for my Tacoma. If any 1st gen. owners are wanting a rough scan of the center of the dash (radio, AC controls), you can download one from this link:

    Tacomaworld - Tacoma Dash

    upload_2022-10-23_21-23-7.jpg

    I was only needing a general shape from this scan, so it's not up to my normal quality standards.
     
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  8. Oct 24, 2022 at 1:10 PM
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    What scanner did you use for this?
     
  9. Oct 24, 2022 at 4:02 PM
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    ayoung

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    I used our Steinbichler Comet L3D for this scan. It's a large scanner, which made it difficult to position within the cab of my truck to take scans at additional angles. It normally produces higher quality scans than this.
     
  10. Oct 24, 2022 at 4:08 PM
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    koditten

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    Can a scan be done of the driver side seat trim?
    The part that covers the recline mechanism.

    That part always cracks on the 04 version of 1st gens.
     
  11. Oct 25, 2022 at 7:55 AM
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    Can you upload a picture or provide a part number for the part you're referring to? If one of the following situations are true, there would be value in taking a scan.

    1. Replacements are hard to find or are no longer available.
    2. Modifications are desired.

    I'm not sure if the part you're referring to would be the same on my Tacoma. If it is, and if it is easy to remove, I could scan it.
     
  12. Oct 25, 2022 at 8:02 AM
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    Preach. My 02 needs a new one as well,, stupid trim piece
     
  13. Oct 25, 2022 at 8:52 AM
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    I'll see if my cracked, old one is still around.
     
  14. Oct 25, 2022 at 9:01 AM
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    Be a nice idea I would think, I was gone try to make a cheap handheld 3d scanner from a rasberry pi when I get my 3d printer in
     
  15. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:48 AM
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    BamBeds

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    After a good amount of research, I've just ordered the Einstar 3D scanner from Go3dPro (has a good return policy as opposed to buying from the Einstar website) which I'll be testing out over the next few weeks.

    I was also considering the following much more expensive options but figured that I should experiment with the $1k Einstar before pulling the trigger on a $10k option.
    The software for the Einstar looks very user friendly and capable for my product design needs (low-medium accuracy scanning of truck beds and vehicle interiors)

    $10k - Einscan HX by Einscan (a couple years old)
    $10k - Peel 3 by Peel 3d (also recently released and based in Canada)

    I've also tested out the $800 Revopoint POP 2 (a couple years old) and $1k iPhone 14 Pro.
    I found that the POP 2 lost tracking too easily even with the use of tracking dots and was very sensitive to ambient lighting conditions.
    The Iphone 14 Pro LIDAR wasn't practical because the front lidar range is very low and the rear lidar resolution is very low.

    I'll keep you all posted on the results!

    Best,
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  16. Oct 27, 2022 at 1:48 AM
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    If you're relatively new to scanning, dry shampoo is your friend. Most of it has wayyy too much perfume. This one is a good priceand is unscented. You can buy it from target, Walmart, or Amazon. I don't recommend Amazon because twice, they sent me the smelly one.

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  17. Oct 31, 2022 at 8:00 PM
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    I'm getting some really good results from the new Einstar. This is absolutely the most capable $1k scanner on the market right now.
    Here's a scan that I did of the tailgate which came out to be nearly dead on dimensionally over the entire length - within the measurement error of the measuring tape that I was using to verify dimensions.
    Einscan doesn't publish an accuracy figure for this scanner, I suspect this is because if they did it would reduce a lot of their revenue from their higher-end scanners.
    I found it easiest to perform this scan with the scanner in "Texture" tracking mode as opposed to "Feature" or "Hybrid"
    I didn't even need to apply a developer or dry shampoo!

    Product Link (30 day returns): https://amzn.to/3DQqj66


    Dimensional Results:
    Scanned Length (center of bolthead to center of bolthead): 1349mm - 53.1"
    Measured Length 53.1"

    Scanned Width (rim of groove to rim of groove) 317mm - 12.5"
    Measured Width 12.5"

    Final Mesh and Scanner Measurements:
    upload_2022-10-31_19-45-37.jpg
    upload_2022-10-31_19-47-7.jpg

    Length Measurement Pics


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    Width Measurement Pics:
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  18. Nov 1, 2022 at 8:22 AM
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    I'm so happy to see that einscan finally released an affordable scanner.
     
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    I went to a Creaform info session and got to use a Peel 3d, and a GoScanSpark.

    I was very curious if it would really work for my application. Thankfully I bought my wife as well. After demoing both of us were 100% sold. I love having a wife that encourages expensive tool purchases!

    I would look more towards the GoscanSpark vs the Peel 3d if you are going to be doing large objects. I would also consider switching to solidworks or maybe inentor if you are currently using Fusion 360. Fusion 360 struggled to use the scan data.


    As far as sharing Scan data, the big thing is it isn't really the 3d scanner itself that is the useful part of the equation. Its the expensive post processing software that comes with it. I have not had a lot of luck using a 3d mesh in any of the CAD suites do anything useful.
     

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