3G Tool Roll: Building One - Need Advice

Looking for a small compact light weight tool roll that covers most of the basics.
I already have:
Cresent wrenches
Screw Drivers
Pliers
Hemostat

What am I carrying that I don't need (save weight / space) and what do I need to add and why? Looking for that specific Toyota Tacoma 3G wisdom.

 

JIS screwdrivers. Japanese vehicles use JIS-standard screwheads which are rounded-out by standard Phillips.

 

Bingo! That's gold right there. I didn't even know such a thing existed. Screw drivers are screw drivers was all I knew before your post - Thank you!

 

Covers all your major metrics and the flexible ratcheting head is worth it.
DURATECH Flex-Head Ratcheting Wrench Set, Combination Wrench Set, 72 Tooth, Metric, 12-piece, Size Covers 8-19mm, CR-V Steel, with Rolling Pouch

$42 DURATECH Flex-Head Ratcheting Wrench Set, Combination Wrench Set, 72 Tooth, Metric, 12-piece, Size Covers 8-19mm, CR-V Steel, with Rolling Pouch

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DJ3SYVN

 

Not suggesting that you buy this kit or any other, but the parts list may helpful to you for building your own:

https://overlandoutfitters.ca/products/toyota-off-road-tool-kit

 

No doubt - that is a complete list. But that's kinda why I asked here. I see a lot of those posted everywhere and I'd bet 1/3 to 1/2 of that kit is fluff and stuff. Each tool is a profit. More tools = More profit. That's why that's a $1300 kit. But for the Toyota drivers out there, how many of those tools have you actually ever needed or used? If it's all then I know I need to get them all. But I'm betting it's less.

7 in. Wire Stripper
8 in. Adjustable Wrench
47 oz Ball Peen Dead Blow Hammer
12-3/4 in. Groove Joint Pliers (2-5/8 in. Jaw)
9-pc. Solid Punch Set (1/16 - 3/8 in.)
6-pc Ph/Sl 4 in Driver Set [HH Chrome] (#0-2 1/8-1/4in)
12 in. Angled Tip Handled Pry Bar
17 in. Angled Tip Handled Pry Bar
7 in. Straight Jaw Locking Pliers
6 in. Long Nose Locking Pliers
7 in. Diagonal Cutting Pliers
9-1/2 in. Lineman's Pliers
8 in. Long Nose Pliers
1/2 in. Drive x 18 in. Breaker Bar
3-pc 3/8 in Drive Extension Set (3, 6, 10 in)
10-pc 3/8 in Drive Hex Bit Socket Set (3-10 mm) Rail
12-pc 3/8 in Drive Torx Bit Socket Set (T10-T60) Rail
3/8 in. Drive x 5/8 in. Spark Plug Socket
12-pc 3/8 in Drive Socket Set (8-19 mm) 6p Rail
19-pc 3/8 in Drive Deep Socket Set (6-24 mm) 6p Rail
1/2 in. Drive x17 mm Deep Impact Socket (6-point)
1/2 in. Drive x 19 mm Deep Impact Socket (6-point)
1/2 in. Drive x 21 mm Deep Impact Socket (6-point)
1/2 in. Drive x 22 mm Deep Impact Socket (6-point)
1/2 in. Drive x 24 mm Deep Impact Socket (6-point)
1/2 in. Drive x 35 mm Deep Impact Socket (6-point)
3/8 in. Drive x 4.5 in. Ratchet
1/2 in. Drive x 10.5 in. Ratchet
3/8 in. Drive x 8 in. Flex Ratchet
19-pc. Combination Wrench Set (6-24 mm)

 

For me, I carry 95% of that kit...piecemealed together over time, and tools are only part of the equation.

Have I needed everything in my kit? Of course not, but most of my trips are 7+ days, usually in very remote areas...I'd rather be over prepared to repair myself if needed, or someone else. I also carry spare parts, fluids, etc. depending on expected conditions.

"No one is coming to save you" is my motto...

YMMV

 

I bought a Dewalt set at Costco for 80 which includes everything up to 22mm. In a nice compact case
I had to get 22 deep socket for wheels, 24 6 point for drain/fill plugs, a breaker bar and the long pry bar ar HF. Probably came out just over 100. With which I put a lift on tacoma, replaced a head gasket on 4 banger,
But 1300 loonies is a joke.

 

i think the real question is if this is specifically only to repair your own truck, or if it's for things you run into with the truck. my tool kit is really a "fix anything enough to get back" kit.

i carry 1/4 and 3/8" ratchets, various extensions, metric and sae, wire cutters, metric adjustable wrench/hammer, butane torch, 5-in-1 screwdriver, and a few other odds and ends. it all fits in a case about the same as the small pelican cases, and fits perfect behind the rear seats.

i've never ran 1/2" socket stuff in the kit because anything that big being broken is more than i could ever fix on the side of the road anyways.

 

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i've never ran 1/2" socket stuff in the kit because anything that big being broken is more than i could ever fix on the side of the road anyways.[/QUOTE]

This is my thought as well.

I carry zip ties, safety wire, safety wire pliers, small hammer, complete set of metric and SAE box end wrenches, metric and SAE sockets, extensions, rachet, wire brushes, vice grips, side cutting pliers. There may be one or two other tools.

All of it fits in a Northern tool roll on the area between my passenger side rear seat and the wall. That spot is a great storage area, fire extinguisher in the other one.

 

It doesn't need to be a lot of stuff.
It doesn't need to be expensive name brand tools. Basic kits and some adjustable wrenches can go a long way.
Everything (almost) I need is in this little hand bag.

 

I carry a full tool pouch of pliers, screwdrivers, crescent wrenches, a 12v Milwaukee 1/4" hex impact, 1/4" hex magnetic nut setters and 1/4" hex type screwdrivers and 1/4" hex type drill bits that all work in the impact. A multimeter, electrical tape, teflon tape, measuring tapes, box cutters, files, a variety of screws, zip ties and wire nuts. Also, a nice assortment of 1/4",3/8" and 1/2" sockets, ratchets, and accessories in a tool bag, and a full set of imperial and metric combination wrench rolls all in the truck every day. Of course, this isn't to support the Tacoma, like they would if I had a domestic vehicle, but for work and the odd jobs I find myself getting into. A couple of foolish buddies have noticed the tools in the truck have commented, "Wow!, you need to carry tools for the truck?", I reply, "No, I carry tools for your truck, I will need to "save" you before you'll ever need to "save" me!"

 

The socket for the lugs and breaker bar are key. The stock lug wrench is a total POS, especially on the 2 piece lug nuts with the chrome cover. It fits like crap, and the bend is not a right angle so you put force on it in a weird direction. I had to use it once and said never again.

 

I found the tool list here to be a good starting point.

https://adventuretaco.com/gear-roundup-what-i-take-with-me-on-trips-2023-edition/

 

first aid kits are a really good point from that link. i've personally revised my own first aid kits to something similar.

most official 'car' first aid kits from walmart or auto parts stores will include basic stuff for basic booboo's. tiny bandaids, small antiseptic wipes, tweezers, etc. that's perfectly fine if your largest anticipated first aid need is a 5 year old's booboo's after they got a nearly invisible scuff at the play ground.

me being slightly physically older than a 5 year old(but not mentally!), my injury tolerance is dramatically different. i don't use bandaid's in most cases, but electrical tape for minor cuts, and leave most minor scrapes alone. if i'm reaching for the first aid kit, things have gone wrong. terribly wrong. i'll be needing real medical attention kind of wrong.

and the goals of such injuries are very far away from what most standard first aid kits offer--so much so, i've needed them, and started laughing when i open up a standard kit and realize my original mistake in buying such a basic kit that won't even cover the wound enough to slow the bleeding... so i've entirely switched to military-style 'trauma' kits. that includes things like large pieces of gauze, scissors, tourniquets, blood clotting packets, etc. the idea being that i can slow and/or contain the large blood loss enough, and fully cover the large wound, to get myself back to real medical attention.

 

Not exactly first-aid

Garmin InReach Mini2

Not from a standard first-aid kit, no as inexpensive as a band-aid

2 Israeli bandages (yes, "Israeli" is an often-preferred variant of field-trauma bandages) ... LAPoliceGear sells only on pairs ($30)
1 tourniquet ($30) ... "North American <something> I think mail-order
1 trauma kit with triangle bandage (arm sling) and clotting gauze ($30) ... REI, Scheels, Bass Pro

Started with a basic $60 first-aid kit that comes in a handy wrapper, added a few items from Walgreens

Assorted other antiseptic non-stick pads
Many various size bandages
Burn oinment
Hydrocortizone cream
Self-sticking wrapping gauze that does not need tape to stay in place but does not grip your skin/hair like tape
Cotton tape to hold things in place (I hate when it must be ripped off)
Tick/splinter removers
Several other ointments

Fits into a single relatively small bag. If you look in your home bathroom, you may find you have much of the "standard kit" already

 

Agreed. Adventure Medical Kits are a better starting point if one must buy a kit. I have a decent one that I’ve tailored to my needs that I keep in the truck. Stuff like quickclot gauze and a SAM splint are must haves when you’re out in the wilderness.
Like another mentioned, Garmin In Reach is probably the best thing I own in case shit goes real bad.

 

Excellent Point. Hadn't considered the people I might be with or that I might need it for something when I'm not even on the trail at all.

Probably should have put it in the opening post:
I'm covered on First Aid - One year I had $500 let in a use it or lose it FSA acct. So on December 28th, I bought an EMT trauma Bag.
When I volunteered with my local FD as a CERT member, I reviewed the bag with them and had it upgraded. Amazon was great for bulk items cheap. Now it's not that good any more.

I travel with a ham radio that beacons out my location and can send text messages to cell numbers on APRS. I've tested it and I'm surprised at how well it works. So far there hasn't been a place I've been that it couldn't beacon back to a digi-peater from. I will find that spot one day. I know it but this covers the most ground so far. When it does fail me, I have an iPhone 14 Max Pro with Sat Messaging. iOS 18 opened up the iPhones to more than emergency messages - I get full sat messaging ability now. It's a little tricky to use but once you do it two or three times it gets pretty easy. Definitely worth testing at home (turn off cell service) before you head out.

There's some great discussion in here. It made me think I need a tire patch kit. Probably more beefy than the one I currently carry.
Good Stuff! You are growing my brain. Lets keep it going.

 

Just to add to that, in my experience, its a lot more fun to help someone in need than to need to ask for help.