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3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by crashnburn80, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. May 11, 2020 at 12:00 AM
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    crashnburn80

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  2. May 11, 2020 at 6:26 AM
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  3. May 11, 2020 at 11:06 AM
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    Because that's impossible with current LED given their physical limitations. If someone is telling you they are, you're being lied to.

    Furthermore Headlight Revolutions is full of shit. Everything they say trying to sell you lighting is bullshit.
     
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  4. May 11, 2020 at 12:11 PM
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    I read the first post in this thread. Not interested in installing HIDs. Way too much to read for me.
     
  5. May 11, 2020 at 12:22 PM
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    clearly you did not.
     
  6. May 15, 2020 at 6:49 AM
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    I eventually ended up taking these out. Once I get enough posts, I'll list them for sale. The squirrel-finders drove me and other drivers crazy. Went back to H9 halogen, think a RX350 retrofit will be my best option. Shame, such great bulbs and a ton of output. Wish our stock projectors were up to par.
     
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  7. May 19, 2020 at 1:40 PM
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    Looking for the TL/DR version(kinda)...

    I have spent weeks browsing these forums, and I haven't even made a dent in it. I purchased a 2019 TRD Sport in cement last week and it came with LED fog lights which emit a nice white light that is close to the DRLs. Personally I don't like the yellowish (3000-3500) light emitted by the factory halogens and would like something closer to the white, 6000-6500 range.

    I considered LEDs however after reading through some of this thread it seems the LED lights aren't going to be the solution, and halogens are going to have a difficult time reaching the color temperature I am after. Are HID's going to be the solution here? Recommendations?


    Thanks for the wealth of knowledge you all have already provided.
     
  8. May 19, 2020 at 2:47 PM
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    You can get an HID retrofit or the Morimoto or Toyota OEM LED headlights. Depends how much you want to spend and what you looking for. IMHO from what I've researched, HID Retro (particularly RX350 projectors) > Toyota OEM LED's > Morimoto XB.
     
  9. May 19, 2020 at 11:02 PM
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    Halogens will not effectively produce the color temp you seek. The Hikari Ultra LEDs are the best performing LEDs tested yet, and what I would recommend for your desired color temp range. HIDs do produce significantly more glare to oncoming drivers, they have the added complexity of external ballasts and the bulbs tend to 'bounce' in the Tacoma 3rd Gen projector over bumps leading many to be unsatisfied with the performance.
     
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  10. May 22, 2020 at 10:56 AM
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    @crashnburn80 How do you think the h9 performance will be affected for those that will be using vftnuer to bump up the alternator output to the mid 14s for AGM compatability?
     
  11. May 22, 2020 at 11:39 AM
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    Halogen output increases exponentially to the power of 3.4 with voltage increase. I used 13.8v in my testing as it was the voltage measured at the headlight connector. The Tacoma voltage seems to fluctuate between 13.6-14.1v depending on the battery state and electrical load while driving (13.8v happens to be right in the middle as an average). So using a .5v boost off of 13.8v average would mean: (14.3v/13.8v)^3.4=1.1286 In other words your looking at a 12.8% increase in output on average over the numbers reported in this thread. It is also worth noting the gain is not free, higher voltage does reduce bulb life. I run a +0.5v voltage booster on my truck to support my AGM.
     
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  12. May 22, 2020 at 12:07 PM
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    Thanks sir. Been a while since I have been on this thread and wasn't sure if it was covered, plus the voltage upgrade for us 3g is pretty new. I figured that shorter life span was given. The H9 was one of the first upgrades I did thanks to you when I picked up the truck almost a year ago. Wasn't sure how much of an increase it would be. 12ish % increase is an added bonus.
     
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  13. May 30, 2020 at 9:32 AM
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    So the consensus: GE +130 is the best performing headlight bulb?

    Anyone gotta link to purchase GE +130 bulbs?
    And i take it also fits in 2015 4Runner?
     
  14. May 30, 2020 at 9:58 AM
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    Philips H9 swap performs best. If you wanted to stay with H11 the GE Xenon +120 are best followed very closely by the GE Megalight +130. The +130s are a little whiter than the +120s. All the data to compare is in post #2.

    Note GE labeling is changing to use the parent company name, Tungsram.

    You can get the Philips and Xenon bulbs from Amazon. The +130s are available from PowerBulbs with free shipping, no tax and a 20% off code on their site. They package products much better than amazon.
    https://www.powerbulbs.com/us/product/tungsram-megalight-ultra-h11-twin

    Yes, 4runner headlights are the same bulb type.
     
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  15. May 30, 2020 at 11:27 AM
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    * Intermittent wiper mod * GE Megalight Ultra +130 low beams installed * Bed Extender (factory, dealer install)
    Good link, thanks. I bought my GE (now Tungsram as you said) Megalights +130 off Amazon previously, I don't see them there now under either brand. The GE Xenon's in H11 I found here are pricey $45.99 a pair:
    https://www.amazon.com/Lighting-H11...1&keywords=GE+Xenon+H11&qid=1590862076&sr=8-2

    With the 20% discount at Powerbulbs, I just bought these for $33.97 shipped, for a backup to the ones I have in my low beam projectors (or maybe to use in the fog lights I am installing in my SR soon if I decide to put in the Philips H9's I bought for my low beams):
    https://www.powerbulbs.com/us/product/tungsram-megalight-ultra-h11-twin

    Based on your previous reviews of both the GE Megalight +130 were pretty close to the GE Xenon 120, and my experience with them is good. Since both brands of high performance bulbs have a fairly short life span, I think the Tungsram Megalight +130's are a far better value at those price points.
     
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