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3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by crashnburn80, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Sep 11, 2020 at 3:44 PM
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    Rainoffire

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    Most likely because it is the same housing as the OEM LED Headlights or the DEPO version taken from the manufacturer in China/Taiwan.

    I also found what appears to be AlphaRex's headlight manufacturer when browsing through Alibaba.
     
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  2. Sep 11, 2020 at 4:01 PM
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    They look almost exactly like the OEM LED headlights, with different shades of smoke and chrome.

    Am I missing something?
     
  3. Sep 11, 2020 at 4:11 PM
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    I actually suspect the design is too close to the OEM LED headlights, they look like they could be knock offs, which would land you in legal trouble with Toyota. Fortunately I have a channel for that.
     
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    Ahhh makes sense, I’m not too familiar with the OEM LEDs so I never noticed that. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. Gives Morimoto the ethical advantage at least now with the competition, if that means anything.
     
  5. Sep 13, 2020 at 10:19 AM
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    Just noticed TacomaBeast are the first to run these headlights. Easiest way to tell is the sidemarker. AlphaRex's knockoffs use the same side markers from the Halogen headlights, while the OEM LED have an angular look with a large reflector and light goes through the top and bottom.

    @crashnburn80 do you think these will have a similar output to OEM?
     
  6. Sep 13, 2020 at 2:46 PM
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    Looking for some insight on a simple setup for driving in the rain. Coming from a Jeep Cherokee trail hawk the nighttime rain is noticeably worse to drive in. Say what you want about the ugly mug that S.U.V. sports but I’ll tell you what that ugly SOB cuts through rain like a hot knife through butter and was probably the best vehicle I have ever driven in bad storms.

    After reading and looking at many different products I’m thinking about this for my 19.

    Eye of megaton led’s or h11+100,120,130 and some yellow led fogs. Not sure if the mixture of light will defeat the purpose but I’m really looking to improve visibility of the road itself as it rains like a mofo and gets hard to see the lines late at night.

    Not sure what type of headlights I’ll use for daytime driving, I’ll need to think about that part more. J/k, just trying to lighten it up a bit.

    appreciate the feedback in advance.
     
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    H9 halogen bulbs and Diode Dynamics SS3 yellow fog lights, sport or pro.
     
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    just the standard base h9’s?
     
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    Get the Philips H9. H9 is already a high spec bulb, there are no "+" rated H9's, only those that reduce the lamps output with bulb tinting for "improved" color temperatures.

    Very simply, higher color temperature lightsources/those that produce more short wavelength light (blue end of the spectrum) will result in increased glare/diffusion for both the driver and oncoming vehicles. Filtering out these short wavelengths to some degree can result in improved ability to see in heavy fog/sleet/snow/rain/atmospheric dust. For example, I currently have the headlights of my 3rd gen 4runner tinted to selective yellow, and while it does not "cut through" fog/rain, it does provide a significant visual improvement over even normal "white" halogen lamps when I am driving in fog and rain.
     
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    I didn't see the on TacomaBeasts website. Have a link? Aftermarket knock-offs nearly never compare to OEM.

    As others mentioned, lower color temps will perform better in poor weather conditions. The Philips H9 swap is higher performing than the Hikari LEDs and a better color temperature for poor weather driving. Typical 6000k will cause lots of reflection off the precipitation in the air compared to halogen or selective yellow color temps. Diode Dynamics SS3s in selective yellow are the highest performing fog in the most ideal color temp for poor weather conditions.
     
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    Thank you Crash. I’m sure it would take me weeks to come to that conclusion on my own, if ever. Appreciate it!
     
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    It is not on their site yet. I noticed it on their supercharger dyno test, and checked a couple videos back and they have been using it since their install of the nfab tube doors, a month ago.

    I asked them about it, and they confirmed that it was indeed not the OEM LED, but did not confirm the brand. They said release will be the end of this month.
     
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    Hmm. I wonder if they will publicly list it on their site or only post in closed groups like AlphaRex.
     
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    I think it will go live on their site. He said "These will be available at TacomaBeast.com this month."

    It might be an exclusive sale through Tacomabeast without the AlphaRex branding. I checked all available shots of the headlights, and the usual αRex logo on the parking light reflector is not there.
     
  15. Sep 14, 2020 at 4:27 AM
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    Wonder if they finally got a clue that nobody wants to be an advertisement that you have to pay to become one
     
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    Anyone know where I can get the GE Megalight Ultra+130? They seem to be out of stock everywhere.
     
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    Search for Tungsram Megalight +130. Same bulbs, GE sold their lighting division off about a year ago.
     
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    Thanks for the info. Now that you mentioned it I believe I read about that and just forgot.

    Edit: Well it appears these are not available either.
     
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    I think they're all made by VLAN or whatever on Alibaba. I came across the OEM LED-lookalikes on Alibaba and the VLAN company also makes an AlphaRex, quad projector headlight. AlphaRex likely just gets their logo added at the factory. Just goes to show that AlphaRex likely does no R&D on their own and are just reselling Chinese knockoffs.
     
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    I actually came across VLAND before AlphaRex. Found them cause they make the knockoff Tundra LED headlights. While not under VLAND, I did find a manufacturer on Alibiba that wholesales AlphaRex's & AlphaOwl's headlights.

    I actually contacted VLAND about Tacoma headlights, and they said they will be officially releasing one soon.
     
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