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3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by crashnburn80, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Oct 14, 2020 at 3:19 PM
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    ShermanOhio

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    I thought you installed the OEM LEDs?

    Never mind, I see you were talking about your wife’s vehicle.
     
  2. Oct 14, 2020 at 4:18 PM
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    Halos are switchback (but set to amber only), Meso side markers are switchback (but set to amber only) and the DRLs are amber only (they also blink amber with the blinkers).
    When you set switchbacks to amber only, they cannot be used as turn signals because you use the wire that you would normally connect to the turn signals. Diode dynamics made their switchbacks to where you could run amber all the time. They stay 100% for a second, then drop down to 50%.
     
  3. Oct 14, 2020 at 6:24 PM
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    @caribe makaira came up with the best solution I've seen where you could still use just amber and have it function as a turn signal as well. Just FYI. Post 466 https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/led-headlight-sidemarkers.564891/page-24 This could easily be adjusted to run all of your amber lights. But the main reason I asked is I am kind of doing the same set up (halo, new DRL board, side markers, but matching fogs in with it as well), but all will be switchbacks. So I was hoping to see them in white. I like the way the headlight works thought with the halo, OEM DRL, and sidemarker though. Looks good :thumbsup: Now, back to drifting....
     
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  4. Oct 14, 2020 at 8:10 PM
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    Are you upgrading to TRD lights? The switchback halos are really easy with the SR/SR5 wiring with Diode Dynamics.
    I just connected the red wire to the DRL/turn signal, white wire to parking lights and amber to rear turn signals. White halo DRLs at 100% brightness with the stalk at DRL, parking and headlights the halos are 50% white and turn signals switch the halos to amber. I just threw an amber demon eye in to my faux high beam projector to stick with the classic Tacoma amber lighting theme.
     
  5. Oct 14, 2020 at 8:36 PM
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    That's a great idea for using switchbacks! Since Diode Dynamics give priority to the Amber, it wouldn't matter that the Red (DRL) wire is getting a pulsing signal while the turn signal is on. My original plan is to run the turn signal and DRL signal through relays though, as the amps start adding up with 2 halos (600mA each in amber), the DRL board (1160mA) and 2-3" LED strips (guessing around 500mA). That comes up to almost 2.3A each side with the turn signal on. I'm guessing the turn signal circuit could handle that though, as it won't have an incandescent to deal with. I already have the rear turn signals run up to the cab as I am using them to trigger side cameras, so even better. I'm going to hit you up with a PM so I don't sidetrack this thread too much. Thanks
     
  6. Oct 14, 2020 at 11:07 PM
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    Apologies for the delayed response to this post. While an interesting idea, I just don't see this as a practical test for me to preform. I don't have a way to automate continuous output testing to find that threshold, leaving it subject to manual test intervals over extended periods, which would be difficult at best. In this one, I'll defer to manufacture spec for bulb life. It typically won't tell you how fast the output is degraded but will tell you how long you can expect the product to perform.
     
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  7. Oct 15, 2020 at 3:29 AM
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    I'll have to back track on my original impressions. I actually was out on the road last night with the Pro150's, and there is definitely a noticeable improvement over stock. Not sure why the driveway test was so disappointing, maybe they need time to warm up, or burn in? But they throw more light out to the sides, and it's a nicer white light, and I also notice more light right below the cut off. All and all I'm happy. Still think they are over priced, but if I get close to H9 performance in an H11 bulb that lasts longer then the H9, that's all I was looking for.

    Nate.
     
  8. Oct 15, 2020 at 8:53 AM
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    Definitely a solid improvement over stock. My underwhelming comment was that I had hoped their performance would exceed the GE/Tungsrams, especially for their price point. They do appear have better light to the sides of the pattern, but peak intensity was less than I was hoping.
     
  9. Oct 15, 2020 at 9:36 AM
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    This?
    https://mtqinc.com/products/nok9117_2?variant=31725123371083

    This is where to get Nokya products, or from Amazon.
     
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    Hey Smiley. Thanx for the info. LOTS of good info. Looks from what I have determined, the NOKYA 55W Hyper Yellow should hot be hotter than original, but over 5yrs they both melted down at the same time.

    More info to come next week when I get the new housings..... PICS coming then, I promise.

    John
     
  11. Oct 15, 2020 at 4:46 PM
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    MikeyMcFly This is heavy, Doc.

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    Interesting, I did not come across that site. The only person on Amazon was a third party seller with a very generic ad and I was sketched out ordering from.

    See how things work out with this harness and go from there.
    I’m impressed you got that long out of the Nokyas. Both those and my Optilux bulbs lasted almost exactly a year in my 2013.

    I’ve got the Hella XY in yellow for my winter setup and I’ve just received a set for my wife’s Jeep.
     
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  13. Oct 16, 2020 at 2:26 AM
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    Your welcome.

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    I Replaced the factory H16/19W halogen bulb and chrome reflector fog lights. Tried to swap to a H11/55W yellow bulb but no go on the basic OEM fog assembly. Apparently you can on a US TRD Tacoma that has the better H11 halogen fog assembly. If you have the H16 fog assemblies I recommend going straight to The DDS3 sports in 2900K selective yellow and if you want to swap to white lenses to match the light bar you get a nice 3900K yellow when turned on. Fyi the white SS3 fogs are 5900K and both run 15 watts.
     
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    Are you going to swap out the entire assembly for winter?
     
  15. Oct 16, 2020 at 11:25 AM
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    MikeyMcFly This is heavy, Doc.

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    I swap out my fog lamps and grille during the winter so I don’t catch an icicle and crack them. Over the top, sure, but that’s me in general, I think.
     
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    My Tungsram headlight bulbs arrived. Less than 2 weeks via Ebay, shipped from Great Britain via post. Hope to get them installed later today.

    Headlight Ultra 130+.jpg
     
  17. Oct 16, 2020 at 2:37 PM
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    Bought the same bulbs but ordered 2 sets, 1 set are installed and the other 2 bulbs for backup. Mine came via ebay/Germany. I did not want to wait for another set to ship from overseas. Not sure how long they will last since the run brighter. Very easy to change.
     
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    That's actually a sound plan, I should have done the same. I'll just tuck the OEM bulbs away for now as less desirable backups. I'm hoping to be able to find the Tungsram stuff locally at some point...
     
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  19. Oct 19, 2020 at 8:50 AM
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    Here is a picture of the light pattern against a wall. Hoping they are not pointed upwards.
    Diode Dynamics SS3 sports and Tungsram Megalight Ultra +130
    20201016_204032.jpg
     
  20. Oct 19, 2020 at 8:56 AM
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    I always do this when relying on bulbs from overseas. Then when the first set burns out, you have plenty time to order more to account for longer shipping times and items potentially being out of stock, as is often the case with the GE/Tungsram +130s.
     
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