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3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by crashnburn80, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Feb 20, 2019 at 4:03 PM
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    Sure thing. My Extech LT300 meter reported about a 10% difference, my AsenseTek LightingNavigator spectrum analyzer reported just over 6%. Usually the numbers are a bit more consistent than a 4% difference, so I was going to spend a little more time with it before publishing the numbers to make sure I have them correct, which is why I didn’t include it earlier. I am going to cross reference with my Extech LT45 meter as a 3rd data point. But here is what I pulled on my AsenseTek in the initial test:

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  2. Feb 20, 2019 at 4:14 PM
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    Understood, and thank you. I was actually curious about the difference in color temperature, and it looks like they're basically identical in that.
     
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    Hellas are looking better and better. And for 10 bucks each , well..
     
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    https://www.usa.philips.com/c-m-au/car-lights/headlight-bulbs/halogen

    I was looking at getting the Phillips bulbs but if you look at the link above I become confused on which to get. Is the "standard" vision better than the plus or extreme? I assume the crystal with the blue coating is actually a bit dimmer from the coating
     
  6. Feb 21, 2019 at 9:34 AM
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    Xtreme +100s are the best domestic bulbs by Philips, they sell higher efficiency Xtreme bulbs in Europe. You are correct that the Crystal vision will actually be a bit dimmer, just whiter in output. "Standard" vision is the equivalent of the stock H11 bulb in the Tacoma. Standard bulbs have long life and are not a performance bulb, LL or Long Life bulbs have extended life over standard and lower performance than standard. As you move up the +xxx rating, the output improves and the bulb life decreases. I believe the Philips Xtreme +100s have a 450 hour life, which is quiet good for a performance bulb. Based on my use of 200 hours a year, that would be ~27 months of use.

    I think what may add to the confusion is the 'Standard' Hella (Osram Hyper) H9s are not actually a standard bulb, they are a +30 high performance bulb, so the 'Standard' terminology is inaccurate. For whatever reason Hella does not better market their enhanced performance. Even Philips marketing for their H9 +30 is very subtle.
     
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    Thanks for clarification....the domestic Xtreme 100 decent or comparable to the Europe one's I assume you are testing?
     
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    took my thoughts and wrote them down!
     
  9. Feb 21, 2019 at 11:35 AM
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    Sorry, for some reason I was thinking H4 with that statement, not H11. The +100s are Philips highest performing H11. I have not yet tried the Philips H11 +100 though I'm certain the GE +130s will be significantly better. Are you looking at Philips for a better balance of bulb live vs performance?
     
  10. Feb 21, 2019 at 12:53 PM
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    My subjective observation for the record...

    The Philips +100 (H4 i think?) were awesome on my 2nd gen Tacoma with reflector housings. Huge improvement over stock. Lasted 26 months.

    In my 3rd gen Tacoma H11 projectors, the improvement wasn't nearly as noticeable (didn't have the truck for long so can't comment on longevity). Same goes for the Philips +100 H11's in my current 4runner projectors.
     
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    Thought about trying those, but chose the GE +130's. I'll see how they di in my 4Runner.
     
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    My guess is the GE will crush the Philips 100's.

    That said, the Philips is still a great bulb. Slightly better performance and 400 hours.
     
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    Hard to say for certain, the existing +130 150hr bulb would last 9 months with my usage. Regardless of life, it is exciting to see manufactures continue to invest and improve the technology performance, providing marketplace competition. Cause right now, GE is making Osram, Philips, Sylvania all look like they are not even trying.
     
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    Just ordered the ge 130 from powerbulbs. Used the 20% code.
    Can't wait to replace my stock bulbs!
     
  18. Feb 22, 2019 at 2:32 PM
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    Sooooo.... just to recap, since this is getting a bit to messy....

    For a 3rd gen without drl's... what is the best for High / Low / Fog.
    Not interested in the bouncy HID's...

    Any info would be greatly appreciated... thanks.
     
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    GE +130 H11 with a set as backups due to short lifespan.

    High beams are Hella H9s as linked in first page.
     
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    Thank you....

    Now, time to get the fingers moving and order this bad-boys for a better/safer driving experience.
     

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