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3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by crashnburn80, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Oct 12, 2021 at 7:04 PM
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    daveeasa

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    No need to trim for Tacoma. Simply remove the green plastic piece and plug in H9. Rock auto has them for ~$6 each.

    Also I can sell you connectors if you want the yellow center plastic and / or want to de-pin (pretty quick and easy)

    There is no good reason to trim H9 bulbs for the Tacoma.
     
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  2. Oct 13, 2021 at 12:51 AM
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    Correct. However the German Philips H9 is the OEM stock high beam bulb. So you only need to replace the low beam.
     
  3. Oct 13, 2021 at 4:56 AM
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    I replaced the bulbs in my ford transit work van with stock tacoma h9s. Went from the dimmest lighting I've ever (not) seen to the brightest possible because of the info here.
     
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  4. Oct 13, 2021 at 12:03 PM
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    Yep, I have an IS300 that came with factory HIDs with reflectors. All of the 1st gen IS300s had these as standard.

    There were a few other Lexus that had optional HIDs in reflector housings as well - late 3rd gen ES300s and 1st gen RX300s

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  5. Oct 13, 2021 at 12:14 PM
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    I'm glad you posted! I was trying to find a photo to show everyone I wasn't crazy. :rofl:

    Do you have a shot at night showing the cutoff? Like against a wall or something?
     
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  6. Oct 13, 2021 at 1:29 PM
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    I don’t have one currently, but can try to get one against the garage door tonight.
     
  7. Oct 13, 2021 at 4:25 PM
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    Ok here is one. This is only ~6ft from the garage door but I think shows the beam pattern. Definitely don’t get the sharp cutoff line like projectors give.

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  8. Oct 13, 2021 at 4:48 PM
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    So what you're saying is... we can thabk Lexus for singlehandedly bringing the ricer/euro fanboi the idea they can just stick a HID burner in any ole headlamp and call it good...

    Gahhh/s

    Not sure what your camera setting were, but the uplight doesn't look horrible, despite all the reflective surfaces on the lower portions of the reflector bowls. Lenses look a little milky, are they original?
     
  9. Oct 13, 2021 at 5:51 PM
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    Yeah lenses are original. They got pretty oxidized and I’ve tried polishing them (previous picture with the painters tape). They’ve also got clear lamin-x on them now which might be causing them to look a little milky.
     
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  10. Oct 13, 2021 at 5:56 PM
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    Personally I’d avoid films and use a UV protectant coating after polishing, even though it is a maintenance solution.
     
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    I'd pull the lamin-x, and spray the lens (after cleaning/removing any adhesive residue) with either a 2k clearcoat (get a vapor cartridge respirator and watch your eyes), or another UV curing/crosslinking spray product like "Literight." Those are your best bets for getting as close to the original hardcoat as possible. It could also be the start of some hazing on the inside of the lens. For being original, they're in quite good shape.
     
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  12. Oct 13, 2021 at 6:17 PM
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    Well with all said and done I'm happy with my retro's. Nice clean cutoffs on low and good throw on Highs. Clean white without any blue tint. :notsure:

    Low beam
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    High
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    On trail low
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    I haven’t heard of lightrite before, thanks for the recommendation. I didn’t have luck in the past with uv coatings lasting (I think the one I tried was from Meguiars) but it could’ve come down to my application.
     
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    Most those are a maintenance coating that need to be reapplied annually, depending on the brand. Depending on your wax schedule, I’d just add it to the wax routine which I try to do 2x a year, in spring and fall.
     
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    The first US manufactured car to have HID headlamps was the Lincoln Mark VII of all things in a reflector lamp. The first overall was the E32-era BMW 7-series.
     
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    I usually polish and clearcoat.
     
  17. Oct 14, 2021 at 2:39 PM
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    Polish and clear bra!
     
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    You need to watch the effects on lens clarity with different coatings/films. They may be clear and still block a significant amount of light.
     
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    Has anyone tested the transparency of the XPEL headlight film and any negative effect on optics? It's something I've looked at but am worried it could ruin the UV coating when it's time to replace it.
     
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    Try the Novus Plastic Polishing kit with 3 deep scratch remover, 2 light scratch remover, and the 1 which is the plastic clean and shine. Amazon.com: Novus 7136 Plastic Polish Kit - 2 oz. : Automotive $11 for the 2oz and about $18 for the 8 ounce.
     

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