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3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by crashnburn80, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Nov 18, 2021 at 9:52 AM
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    joncure

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    Good point, thanks. I have my old H11’s standing by.
     
  2. Nov 18, 2021 at 11:18 AM
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    You can get them on power bulbs
     
  3. Nov 18, 2021 at 9:03 PM
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    I just purchased a 2022 TRD Sport and am trying to figure out what to do with the headlights.

    I have a new set of Diode Dynamics SL1 H11’s just sitting in a drawer. Are these worth using? If I stick with H11 halogen just use H11 Tungsram Platinum ?

    Sorry I know this keeps being discussed but only read 20 of the 200 pages
     
  4. Nov 18, 2021 at 11:49 PM
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    crashnburn80

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    A glare capped bulb is a requirement for the housing to prevent glare to oncoming drivers, but to also maintain pattern cut off for your fogs to actually work in fog rather than acting as an ineffective high beam.

    I've tried using the high temp paint route. It was pointed out that the paint will off gas, coat the reflector and reduce the performance. You need proper high temp bulb glare cap coating material. I've found it, but it is not cheap at all. I also experimented with the Subi fogs using glare caps, but the pattern wasn't as wide as desired.

    Wince. Fine for off road/show. But for snow you want real fogs. If you experience Diode Dynamics SS3 performance fogs, you'd kick yourself for holding out with he HF lights. The HF lights are general flood work lights (not even classified as an automotive pattern) vs the DD Fogs are a highly engineered light for the very specific purpose of poor weather driving. I cannot emphasize enough how vastly superior these are for the fog light pattern.

    ^This.

    The Diode Dynamics SL1 is a poor performing product, it fails to even match the performance of the stock H11 bulb. It does produce misleading foreground light, which people often think means the product is better, even though that actually makes it worse. Full SL1 review posted here.

    SL1 vs Tungsram Platinum
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  5. Nov 19, 2021 at 4:05 AM
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    Exactly my use. I have off road ditch lights and fogs. My headlights are Amber for the winters and that does wonders in the snow, I only use the pods for off road use. I might actually have to cap them for inspection since they don't meet DOT :spy:
     
  6. Nov 19, 2021 at 7:28 PM
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    silverbugeye

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    How long do the H11 hot bulbs last? I remember using Silverstars and never getting 6 months out of them
     
  7. Nov 19, 2021 at 7:31 PM
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    ryanvar42

    ryanvar42 That is your opinion. It is wrong.

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    prob a year
     
  8. Nov 19, 2021 at 7:33 PM
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    Most of the high performance H11's are rated for about 250 hours mean failure time. The one exception is the philips H11 racingvision +150 (pretty sure thats the one off the top of my head) which is rated for 400 hours.
     
  9. Nov 19, 2021 at 9:59 PM
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    I think the Philips H11 +100 is also a 400 hour bulb. It’s a good performer (outstanding in the 2nd gen reflector bowls, but also a nice upgrade in 3rd gen projectors).
     
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  10. Nov 19, 2021 at 10:21 PM
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    Depends on the bulb, but ~1-2 years for the best performance halogens. Silver stars have terrible life and ended up getting sued in a class action suit over it. Silver stars are more of a cosmetic bulb, not a true performance one. Their focus tends to be on whiter light in the 4000k+ range. In terms of a halogen that means filtering low color temp light to make output whiter, and filters remove light which reduces output. If you want the best performance in a halogen, it won’t be 4000k+. Filters also make the bulb run hotter, which can negatively affect bulb life.
     
  11. Nov 19, 2021 at 11:26 PM
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    Stumbled upon this today, I had never seen matrix LEDs in action before :drool:

    Side note: I miss Stumbleupon

     
  12. Nov 19, 2021 at 11:40 PM
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    Fantastic video example! The visibility improvements for drivers and safety improvements for other motorists on the roadway that this technology brings is incredible. It cannot get here soon enough under the newly passed legislation. And for those that don't want it, the technology is now allowed as an option, it is not a requirement.
     
  13. Nov 20, 2021 at 6:33 AM
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    daveeasa Slowest crimp in the West

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    Wow. Great video.
     
  14. Nov 20, 2021 at 8:39 AM
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    B.C. Canada, eh
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    Wow, pretty impressive!
     
  15. Nov 21, 2021 at 10:52 AM
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    I'm ready to test

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  16. Nov 21, 2021 at 11:06 AM
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    The last I heard from the other guy was that he had to hack up the harness to get it working.

    @crashnburn80 , could you please help nail down the pins on the assembly?

    @Spike Spiegel i think we know the signal wires from the harness side but maybe you can confirm those independently from your rig?
     
  19. Nov 21, 2021 at 11:15 AM
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    @Spike Spiegel just picked up all my 4Runner lights.
     
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    Hence the link for the Toshibas.
     
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