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3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by crashnburn80, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Mar 9, 2019 at 8:19 PM
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    kakwvu

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    You’ll likely have to specify a year range.
     
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  2. Mar 9, 2019 at 8:20 PM
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    On newer Corollas, if they are whitish-blue, they are the OEM LED headlights. Toyota is putting in OEM LED headlights in the 2020 Tacoma.
     
  3. Mar 9, 2019 at 8:23 PM
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    anybody put the GE +130s in the fogs yet?.....thoughts?
     
  4. Mar 9, 2019 at 8:58 PM
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    Yeah I was referring to the 16’s, 17’s, 18’s I see daily. Those years have LED housings?
     
  5. Mar 9, 2019 at 9:05 PM
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    Looks like the OEM Corolla LEDs may have come out in 2015. I'm not very familiar with Corolla light changes over the years, so it is just googling for me. And as typical there is a tidal wave of complete garbage LED results of companies trying to sell you Chinese crap, that make finding real information a challenge.
     
  6. Mar 9, 2019 at 9:37 PM
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    Oh okay. I had no idea Toyota was using an oem led. Makes sense now
     
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    DBACK HD, Armor, SP9100, lights...etc
    Just swapped out the OEM bulbs for the GE Mega Ultra +130s tonight.

    OMG! There is a HUGE difference. Not even CLOSE to the stock bulbs! Now the lifespan will be the issue ( I drive about an hour daily in darkness ) but there is NO WAY I am going back to stock.

    I carefully packaged up the stock bulbs and tossed them in the cab in the event that one fails in the future and I am not at home. I did pick up two other sets that are in my garage.

    Thanks Crash!
     
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  8. Mar 10, 2019 at 8:36 AM
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    Argh... I can't make up my friggin mind choosing between the Morimoto Ellie HID kit in 5500/35w or the GE +130's. That color temp has me leaning towards the HID's but I don't really have the patience to deal with any quirky issues if they come with an HID system.
     
  9. Mar 10, 2019 at 8:57 AM
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    From what I can find, LED headlamps came standard on 2014+ models.
     
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  10. Mar 10, 2019 at 8:40 PM
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    Update. I installed some Lasfit No Hyperflash 7443 front bulbs. Yellow / White Switchbacks. When your headlights are on the DRLs are White. Blending the H9s together with the LED DRL. And it puts out a little extra light low in front. Makes it look like LED Headlights without the problems. And it adds to the Morrimotos looksIMG_20190310_202923.jpg IMG_20190310_202910.jpg
     
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  11. Mar 10, 2019 at 9:59 PM
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    After much research, skepticism and gnashing of teeth, I have upgraded.

    New Setup:
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    Hella H9's from Rallylights
    Low: Phillips HID 4300k 35w from XenonDepot
    Fog: GE +130's from Powerbulbs

    I set up my Nikon D200 with a tripod on the roof. I chose a manual setting for all shots.
    f8 with an 8 second exposure.

    Here ya go:

    Bone stock Low and Fog
    [​IMG]

    Bone stock High and Low
    [​IMG]

    New Setup Low and Fog
    [​IMG]

    New Setup High and Low
    [​IMG]

    WHOA!, yea, big difference.

    The projectors are aimed a little high in these shots. I took them down some when I got home.

    I also have some gremlins with the HID system. Occasionally, the left light doesn't fire. Turn them off/on and it fires. Some troubleshooting needed. I'll get to that over the next few days.

    -Kirk Out
     
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  12. Mar 11, 2019 at 6:50 PM
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    The last of the halogen bulbs I plan on testing at this time are due in this week. 2 more H9s and one final H11. The H11s arrived today. Question is, can the GEs be unseated by... the GEs.

    416BA970-8066-4784-93D4-2504B73DF000.jpg

    These are the Nighthawk Xenon +120s which have less blue coating. Nighthawk is GEs domestic performance brand vs Megalight as their international performance brand.
     
  13. Mar 11, 2019 at 7:02 PM
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    that is similar what I have:

    low: diode dynamics harness, 4300k Philips and 35w ballast
    high: Hella H9s
    fogs: Ge +130 Ultra Megas

    thanks to crashnburn80 for all the help and assistance
     
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    It is very close, but the GE +120s inch out the GE +130s for highest performing H11.

    This is likely due to the larger glare cap and more blue coating reducing performance on the +130s. This is similar to the Hella Osram Hypers vs the Philips Vision series, where the Philips are slightly higher performers but cost substantially more. The GEs +120s are slightly higher performers but cost 2x the price. However their domestic availability is a major plus. The +130s are just slightly whiter, thanks to the higher amount of blue coating.

    GE +120 left, +130 right
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    +120 left vs +130 right
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    The plus 120s get horrible reviews. The plus 130s much better.
     
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    Based on what? I've read the reviews on Amazon and the negative ones seem to fall into 2 camps. 1) I was expecting HID color due to the Xenon name. Well, no, it doesn't work like that and "Xenon" is perhaps a poor name choice if people expect an HID color look. 2) Bulb life is short. Short bulb life fell into, it lasted about year and it lasted less than a month. Clearly if the bulbs lasted less than a month that would be a major issue. I could in theory run a week long test to see which fail first. I can say the +120s are slightly brighter, though maybe not worth the additional cost over the +130. But looking at the bulb itself it isn't hard to see why the +120s do a bit better in output.
     
  17. Mar 11, 2019 at 11:27 PM
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    I knew that would be your first question.......i would have won a fortune if i had bet on that ......hehehehe.......
     
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  18. Mar 12, 2019 at 12:47 AM
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    My impressions of the 130 are that they're very bright but the field of view is somewhat reduced. I assume this is due to the glare cap length?
     
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    I was just thinking that they would have better reviews. And I get that most people want bulb longetivity and color almost more than actual output. Are both bulbs manufactured in the same place ? And how do the plus 120s compare to the Hyper H9s ?
     
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    To muddy the waters, there’s a $15 mail in rebate on the Nighthawk Xenons if you order from Amazon.com (make sure Amazon is the seller, not a 3rd party). That puts them at the same price as the +130s.

    GE Lighting H11 55NHX/BP2 Nighthawk Xenon Halogen Replacement Bulb, 2-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GZHC2L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_XO-HCbMJ91ZWC

    The rebate expires March 31.

    When you get a chance, can you post the specs, and how they compared to the 130’s and the hella H9’s?
     
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