3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

I reported his last comment, lol.. He came in hot then started political bashing. I don’t want to have to read about peoples BS political opinions on a site I love so much/a thread with such good info and positvity.

@crashnburn80 what’s your paypal (dm or share here)? I will make a donation next paycheck, so grateful for all your hard work and great objective data.

 

I just bought these and will be installing tonight.
My headlights have always sucked. One has started to die out and I have to bang on it for it to work. Since I don't DD this and I live in the city, I don't see the need to spend $$$$$ on headlights.
I see well enough without the need to blind everyone else. When it's truly dark, I'm out on a trail and I have a light bar for that. Keeping the head lights stock-ish.

The pack was like $14-15. Cheaper than going to auto store.

 

really Francois?

 

Yeah, keep political shit off of technical threads.

 

which threaD?

 

I don't like the banning and locking of threads but I get the reason.

 

And I just realized this is a third gen thread. My bad! Somehow ended up in here.
Ignore my light bulb post. My lights are probably candle lights compared to stock 3rd gen.

 

I'd say mine look like the hand lit lights from the 1940's.

 

FYI The Philips Xtreme Vision +100's are really nice in the 2nd gen reflectors.

 

Gratefully very much appreciated. I'll PM you.

The 1st/2nd Gen thread (H4 bulbs) is over here:
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-ultimate-headlight-upgrade-h4-not-led-or-hid.398066/

Unfortunately the best bulbs in that thread have been discontinued, there are suggested replacements but not to the level of scientific approach taken in this thread and the fog light thread. I've been busy hoarding H4 bulbs for a while and will have a better science backed update on that thread soon. If you go to the last page in the thread you can see the issue I am trying to solve with rack mounting the reflector light assemblies, which are not as easy as the 3rd Gens headlights.

 

you know you undercover want a turd

 

Lol caught !!

 

I ordered 6 of the Philips from the Amazon link. All 6 are German. I’ve went a bit overboard due to this thread. I have GE +130’s in my LB now and one set of spares. I plan to move the GE’s to the Fogs and then run the Philips H9’s in both HB and LB, I have 8 of these which includes the factory HB set. I also have 2 sets of the Hella H9’s. Luckily I plan to keep this truck for a decade or so...

Anyone want any of these make me an offer in a PM and I’m happy to part with a set of the Hella H9’s and a set of the German Philips H9’s.

 

Thanks man. You have some crazy info on bulbs here. Sounds like if you want more brightness you need more power (watts).
The higher wattage bulbs die faster. Also seems like you need to alter the harness. I really appreciate the thoroughness on the bulbs. Completely insane haha.

I think it’s incredible the light you get in some of those pictures you posted. Really cool.

I just installed those Phillips. No surprise. Pretty much stock (terrible little candles ). Don’t really wanna get into the whole
Bulb thing. I won’t lie. I would love brighter lights around town but this is enough where I don’t feel in danger driving and the effort to get more light seems to great for me lol! Think I’ll install some LED ditch lights and in combo with my light bar more than enough for when I’m off pavement. Usually when I’m on the road to a trail that’s the shitty part cus still on paved road and less visibility. But it tend to do okay with using the high beams appropriately. Maybe I’ll change my mind in future.

 

More power in watts, higher voltage via harness (or upcoming voltage booster), and higher efficiency with +xxx bulbs is how it is done. All available in that 2nd Gen thread if using an All Season bulb. One of the other things to note, the larger the reflector surface, the more efficient and performant the projection. 2nd Gens have the largest reflectors by far. I'll do a more thorough review of the H4s in the 2nd Gen thread, but my money for somewhat stock power requiring just a bulb replacement would be on the Osram All Season Super +30 (75/70w) H4, or the GE Megalight/Xenon +120 H4. I expect either would drastically outperform the Philips +100s. I'll have more concrete data soon though.

 

Received an email blast from Diode Dynamics today - wondering if this is just another marketing tactic, or if there is validity behind their testing statements of output:

https://www.diodedynamics.com/led-b...112315101&mc_cid=81c160adfe&mc_eid=c3a8721905

 

Definitely marketing hype. I know they post videos about their products but they don't go into the detail that crashburn80 provides.

 

Unless they’ve figured out how to make a flat LED behave like a halogen’s omni-directional light source (coiled wire), it’s probably not going to be better than a halogen in a halogen housing.

 

Bulbs like this have LED filaments that radiate light up to about 300°. Maybe it won't be long before a LED filament can be made smaller and brighter for automotive bulbs.

 

This thread should auto default to Page 1 every time. I can’t quit laughing at all the ‘which X LED is better than Y bulb’ posts

I need a set of retros.