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3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by crashnburn80, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Jun 13, 2019 at 11:17 AM
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    johnnyroid

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    Damn! $$$$
     
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  2. Jun 13, 2019 at 11:49 AM
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    Was about to pull the Amazon trigger on the Diode Dynamics SL1 LEDs.
    Now I have to wait to see what's your opinion on the LED headlight conversion is (besides pricey).

    My checkbook/credit card awaits your findings...
     
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  3. Jun 14, 2019 at 2:47 PM
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    Hey guys, First post!
    Just got a 19 TRD OR. First thing I noticed that I wanted to change were the headlight. They suck pretty bad for projectors. I’ve done quite a few HID swaps in other cars, there seems to be a pretty high rate of issues that pop up with those over time so probably going to stay away for now.
    Reading this thread, looks like the GE 130 for LB is the way to go for me, confused on the HB. Is the Philips H9 better than stock? Is there a better H9 to go with?
    Are the 130s the best halogen option with the factory housing for the fogs?
    I know options vary, really just looking for stock replacements without changing wiring, cutting tabs, or modding fixtures.
    Thanks!
     
  4. Jun 14, 2019 at 3:23 PM
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    Welcome to TW! Check out the 2nd post in the thread that has all the continued comparison halogen testing. For plug and play with no trimming the GE Megalight +130 is a excellent option but the GE Xenon +120 is just a little better, though it does cost a fair amount more. The GE +130s are a bit whiter than the Xenons. The same bulbs will be the best ones for the plug and play option in the fogs.

    The 3rd Gen comes stock with a Philips H9, it is the best H9 bulb I have tried. The high beam performance is somewhat restricted in the 3rd Gen due to the small high beam reflector. Larger reflectors project much more efficiently than smaller ones.
     
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  5. Jun 14, 2019 at 6:42 PM
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    Just installed the Hella H9s in my low beams. Might aim the projector slightly higher. It is an improvement. But I just feel like i want it to be brighter. Cannot wait to see the results for the Diode Dynamics. I might just do a HID retrofit. Had that in my Si. It was like night and day.
     
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  6. Jun 15, 2019 at 8:31 AM
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    What if you have a camera that you can set everything to manual?
     
  7. Jun 15, 2019 at 9:45 AM
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    DSLRs are certainly better. However you can still have issues where higher color temp light appears to be higher intensity in pictures, due to color, not output. Which goes back to the importance of accurate tools to measure the output for compatible data and not just relying on photos alone.
     
  8. Jun 15, 2019 at 6:41 PM
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    Ok so I'm straight lost as a newborn here, so what is the best lights to replace my stock headlights without crazy modification or killing my warranty? If it's the bulbs u have to make a harness for is there a video?
     
  9. Jun 16, 2019 at 6:37 AM
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    Good morning, you have 3 options without “extensive modification”.
    1.) You could buy the GE 130 bulbs. Those are a direct swap in your factory H11 low beam.

    2.) But, the hella h9s can also go into the factory low beams and they emit a bit more light.
    In order to use the h9s. You can buy an H11 extension from Amazon. People have used the ijdmtoy one. You modify those. Takes 30 seconds. Go back in previous pages and you will see where to cut. With this method you do not need to trim the actual halogen bulb and it will just be direct swaps in the future.

    3.) xenon depot makes h11b HID kits with the philips 4300k bulb. That would be the brightest option available. But by far the one that requires most work since you need to set up the HID kit.

    I hope this somewhat helps.
     
  10. Jun 16, 2019 at 6:42 AM
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    One thing I would add about #2 is the phillips h9 is a higher performance bulb than hella h9. Check out the second post on this thread for a super clear graph of performance. I love how mine look.
     
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  11. Jun 16, 2019 at 10:26 AM
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    Yep, and the GE Xenon +120s are a bit higher in output than the GE Megalight +130.

    XD has released a new HID Philips XV2 bulb that they claim is even better than the Philips 4300k bulb, I may have to try that one out at some point to see how it compares.
     
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    This is where you’ll post that me buying RX350 retros was stupid.
     
  13. Jun 16, 2019 at 10:40 AM
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    I’d bet money that proper Toyota RX350 retros perform better. I’ll have the Morimoto output data soon.
     
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    I was just looking at that. It's an extra $130 over the normal price.
     
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    Stuff, things, this, an ADS
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  16. Jun 16, 2019 at 11:13 AM
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    Ok so what about these SL1 led lights by diode dynamics? They say that they are true plug and play without modification, they show hot spot charts as well. Thoughts?
     
  17. Jun 16, 2019 at 12:03 PM
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    I’ve got the data for those too, just haven’t put it together for a review
    post yet. Coming soon.
     
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    Give us a sneak peak. are they promising?
     
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    I have no doubt the RX350s would outperform them. HIDs are fantastic.

    You are the worst.
     
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