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3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by crashnburn80, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Aug 7, 2019 at 12:12 AM
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    Looking at the GE +130 bulbs on Amazon they offer a 4-year extended care plan for $5.

    • Covers failures due to power surge and other mechanical and electrical breakdowns.
    Wouldn't a burnt out bulb fit this definition? I ordered em with the plan. I'll check the terms and see if it covers bulbs.
     
  3. Aug 7, 2019 at 5:58 AM
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    Wow, there goes 3 hrs of sleep. What an amazing write up. Now so tired, I just want an answer.... Have decided on the GE Xenon +120. Do I get 2 pair (low beams and high beams) and if so, what is the correct sizes? Thanks a lot....
     
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  4. Aug 7, 2019 at 6:58 AM
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    Just low beam for the GE Xenons. Stock uses Philips H9s, which are already the best bulb for the application.
     
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  5. Aug 7, 2019 at 8:20 AM
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    That's great input thank you! Currently have the Philips Crystal Vision Ultra H11 and from what I've learned in this feed the blue coating is compromising the performance.
     
  6. Aug 7, 2019 at 8:47 AM
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    That is correct. Coatings to make the light output whiter rob performance. The Xenons use a Xenon gas fill which produces a whiter light than stock, but not as white as a coated bulb.
     
  7. Aug 7, 2019 at 1:17 PM
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    It's kind of interesting for the Yukon the lower SLE/SLT trims get halogen low beams and the top Denali trim has HID's standard. Totally understand economies of scale and when they are cranking out 245k+ Tacomas a year the name of the game is speed and streamlined production processes. But since there are already 5 different headlight assemblies with slight variations from the among the various trims (albeit mostly aesthetic), why didn't/doesn't Toyota take it just a bit further and have certain higher end trims i.e. Limited and Pros as a standard option or OR/Sport with premium packages have a different/more advanced lighting configuration and setup? I get it's that people buy them regardless and Toyota often leans more towards keep in simple, stupid mantra. Just thinking out-loud.
     
  8. Aug 8, 2019 at 2:35 AM
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    I'm getting really confused by Amazon on the fog light bulbs. It's telling me a bunch of different things. I've already ordered myself a set of H9(s) for my headlights, but if someone could please help me out with the fog lights so I don't end up wasting some money.
     
  9. Aug 8, 2019 at 2:42 AM
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    Stuff, things, this, an ADS
    GE Lighting H11 55NHX/BP2 Nighthawk Xenon Halogen Replacement Bulb, 2-Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GZHC2L2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_45-sDbNWGAPF4
     
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    Or the GE +130’s, for $15 less per bulb and slightly less output.
     
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    These guys below have you covered for the best factory bulb replacements.

    For LED fogs you should replace the entire housing. See the thread with all the LED fog options here:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/the-led-sae-j583-fog-pod-fog-light-review.554813/
     
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    How come those things have such bad reviews? Is it just because of the much shorter lifespan compared to other bulbs?
     
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    If you read the reviews, yes mostly it comes down to bulb life mixed with folks who wanted LED color from a halogen.


    Bulb performance for most people equals longevity above all else, especially on cars where it’s harder to get to the headlights. On my previous Outback you had to pull the fender liner down and go in through the wheel well. It was a giant pain in the ass, and even worse because it was inevitably -20F when it went out. On that car, which ate bulbs like candy, I wanted long life above all else.
     
  15. Aug 8, 2019 at 9:34 PM
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    Yep. As mentioned if you read the reviews they get hit hard for short bulb life and not looking like HID. Both should be understood when buying a performance halogen bulb, but Amazon is pretty poor in consumer education.
     
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    Yep. And the masses don't know that you're not supposed to touch the glass with your bare hands or get them dirty even in the slightest little bit. And that probably increases the number of bulbs that fail prematurely.

    If all the reviewers knew that you can only expect to realistically get 10-12 months out of the bulb, the poor reviews wouldn't be so pronounced. For those that get less than that amount of longevity, they're either driving 7 hours a day with the headlights on or they're getting dirt on their bulbs upon installation.
     
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    Actually sounds worse than replacing bulbs on a Grand Am.
     
  18. Aug 11, 2019 at 5:05 PM
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    Decided to replace my fog lights with the GE+130 and disappointed when I realize the original bulb was H16 on my TRD-offroad. Assume the original bulb was H11. Fortunately amazon.ca had the clear kc hilites G4 on sale for $285 Canadian. Excited for them to come sometime this week.
     
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    Just found this in Amazon. Same?
    GE Megalight Ultra H11 +130% Light Car Headlight Bulbs (Twin) 53110XNU
     
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