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3rd Gen HID vs LED vs Halogen H11 projector headlights

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by crashnburn80, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Nov 2, 2019 at 4:39 AM
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    Boghog1

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    just because other people are not flashing their high beams at you doesn't mean you are not blinding them
     
  2. Nov 2, 2019 at 5:49 AM
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    i love my led lights...
     
  4. Nov 2, 2019 at 11:29 AM
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    I specifically stated in my post that I'm not basing my claims on that
     
  5. Nov 2, 2019 at 11:55 AM
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    Hey everyone, just a friendly reminder that anecdotal evidence and emotional attachments are not equivalent to measurements and scientific gathering of data.
     
  6. Nov 2, 2019 at 12:08 PM
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    While yours was the one post quoted, it wasn't all directed at you. I appreciate your (semi) objective approach. You dont neccessary bash or play the "I'm an engineer" card. Other people do that on your behalf, though, and it's ridiculous. One thing you are guilty of, though, is generalizing. You make blanket statements that may not be true for all LEDs. Sure, LEDs dont fit the exact dimensions of a halogen filament. That is a fair blanket statement. What may NOT apply to all LEDs is how those out of spec dimensions will affect different housings. From what I have seem in my own experience in my own applications is that the thickness of the blade (diode separation) only affects the horizontal focus, and has no impact on the vertical focus of the beam, which shouldn't increase glare at all. As far as the importance of 1-3 degrees; there is a 300% difference there. I've seem some people here actually encourage others to aim their lights higher because -gasp- the OEM aimed them well below the compliance level. Again, not all cars are the same, and not all housings are the same. One degree in one car may be a retina searing change in one car, while another car may actually benefit from a 2 degree change, while still being in compliance.

    As far as the other testing that you're talking about, I missed any links you may have given, and google isn't helping me find any tests done on any of the bulbs I'm familiar with.
     
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  7. Nov 2, 2019 at 12:13 PM
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    If you're implying that my statements are any more based on anecdote than anyone else's regarding the glare of any of the specific bulbs I've mentioned, please, I emplore you to direct me to the scientific evidence that shows those bulbs having unacceptable levels of glare.
     
  8. Nov 2, 2019 at 1:23 PM
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    I am going old school when my 2020 arrives

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  9. Nov 2, 2019 at 7:06 PM
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    I'm not implying anything other than what I just said.
     
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    Finally got around to ordering the Phillips H9s and the harness extension to mod. What sold me on modding the extension was being able to swap in the bulbs from the high beams in a pinch if needed, essentially having two back up bulbs always on board. Thanks for the research Crash.
     
  11. Nov 3, 2019 at 6:46 AM
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    Should get these instead. They'd be a good conversation starter
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    I've got one of those. Don't have any carbide, but I have the lamp!
     
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    you are aware Crash's testing was based on 2nd and 3rd gen Tacoma's right?

    i don't remember he saying about testing done on other platforms
     
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    I'm aware of what his tests were based on.
    As far as the other testing that he mentioned...

    If you know what those tests are or where I can find them, I love being enlightened.
     
  15. Nov 4, 2019 at 6:32 PM
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    start here
    https://www.sae.org/
     
  16. Nov 5, 2019 at 4:18 AM
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    Thanks to all the data on here in the end I went with some LED's in my projectors and left halogens in the high beams.. really liking these as they have a crisp cutoff and even my wife who I passed going the other way said I didn't blind her :) https://www.amazon.com/SEALIGHT-Hea...?keywords=sealight+led&qid=1572956156&sr=8-24


    I also ordered a carbide lantern off of ebay so I have a backup light source in case these fail
     
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  17. Nov 5, 2019 at 6:19 AM
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    So you disregarded said data. :facepalm:
     
  18. Nov 5, 2019 at 6:26 AM
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    Will retrofits bounce like OEM projectors? I've had a set of retro-fits done by TRS themselves in my old WRX and they were amazing. I'm looking at buying a set of stock headlights on flea-bay and trying my hand (and taking my time) at cracking them open and doing a retro-fit on my own with TRS kit. I'm NOT handy but I'll give it a shot and take my time, especially if I don't have the car 'down' while I do it.
     
  19. Nov 5, 2019 at 6:46 AM
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    What data did he disregard? What he did (LED low/stock high) is a great option. The properly designed LEDs are a significant improvement over stock, are aesthetically pleasing to some, and (in theory) last a long time. I don't know how those specific bulbs perform, but there is no data in this thread that shows they DON'T perform well. I don't necessarily agree with fanless LEDs being better, but some people here seem to think they are. Since I know everyone here is above baseless LED bashing, lets see what data this is that you seem to think he disregarded. In case you missed his latest LED test, here's a snippet:


     
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  20. Nov 5, 2019 at 6:50 AM
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    They always hate. I love your responses back.
     

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