3rd Gen high idle?

I think it was this one, but it doesn’t include your year. I’d still keep looking to see if you can find an updated one though.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/transmission-tsb-0077-16.441214/

 

Thanks for sharing this! I was doing some searching, and didn't find any for my year, either. I did find quite a few posts on forums with the same questions about the cold idle, so from what I read it must be a kind of normal characteristic for the tacoma 3.5. I will mention it when I take it in for the next service, and see if they have any info. In the meantime, I will keep looking. Thanks again for your help!

 

Heat, yes. That's quick in any vehicle. Being up to full operating temp is what I was referring to. I guess I misunderstood what you meant.

 

Sorry man!
Speaking of operating temps...
The best thing about synthetic fluids is the viscosity at 35 degrees and 190 degrees is not very different, much less than a conventional oil.
I was thinking heat from the heater!

 

That's how my 2021 is. Even after 15 minutes of idle, it feels exactly like a neutral drop! It takes a good 10-15 minutes of actual driving to get it to be normal AFTER 15 minutes of warming up.

 

I have noticed the same thing.

I have owned 5 vehicles prior to my taco and none of them took so long to get to operating temperatures, and man I had some shitboxes.

I moved up north last year and my taco wouldnt even get to operating temps when it was -30-20C out. I "installed" a piece of foam in my front grille and man it made a huuuuge difference. Now my truck gets to operating temps in no time, even when its -20C out. I remove the foam when it gets to about +5C.

I guess that big ass grille in the front lets a lot of air through, which is great for cooling the engine/coolant/oil in those hot summer months, winter though...

 

You let your vehicle 'warm up' for 15 minutes?

Thats a total waste of time, gas and you are diluting your oil with gas quicker. A minute is all you need even in the coldest temperatures, manual states that as well. Best and quickest way to get the engine to operating temps is by simply gently driving it.

If you had a 1986 carburated mazda b2000 then that would be a different story...

 

Yeah, idling is going to take most any vehicle a loooooong time to warm. I use my remote start on my work truck to let it start the warm up for a couple of minutes, before my short 1.5 mile drive to the gym each day,,, but it doesn’t shut off when I get in. For the Tacoma, it rarely gets used, unless I’m going to drive it long enough to charge the battery (think two starts versus one).

 

I am more worried about the "neutral drop" feel when I put it in drive or reverse. It really slams into gear when it's cold...

 

It’s fine, but what I do is take my foot off the brake and put it in gear when it’s safe, but I doubt the load amounts to jackcrap for wear.

 

Can't say I've had it ever not get up to temp yet but I also don't know if I've had it colder than -4°F (-20°F) or so. But it is slow to get there. I think the only slower vehicle I've experienced (that wasn't flat out low on coolant or had a thermostat issue) was a Nissan Xterra.

 

I had a frontier with the same motor that pretty much didn’t warm up if it was idling when it was cold out. There was 0 point to letting it idle for any amount of time. My Tacoma is very similar. Hell, it was May in Texas and I still could barely get the Tacoma up to thermostat opening temp when I did a coolant flush and that was 85-90° out. These things really want you driving to warm up.

Meanwhile when it’s hot out, both of these vehicles warm up quicker than any others I’ve owned.