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3rd Gen Owners with King Coilovers

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by c4lvinnn, Jan 30, 2017.

  1. Nov 9, 2021 at 9:30 AM
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    AccuTune Offroad

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    In theory, yes. If you are at stock weight, you would need to drop down in spring rate. Dont get the -EXT to avoid having to buy new UCA. Rear shocks however are not adjustable, so thats where you would need to figure out what you want to do. Or just wait and do it all right the first time
     
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  2. Nov 9, 2021 at 10:41 AM
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    Sweet! Thank you for the response. A lot of the install videos I see have them installed with a 2"-2.5" lift and I don't really want to lift it at the moment.
    Are you saying I couldn't install Kings in the rear without lifting it? (I'm new to all this haha)
     
  3. Nov 9, 2021 at 11:10 AM
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    The front with 600lb springs and the minimum preload is going to be about a 1" lift in the front. Changing the rear shocks will not change the ride height at all.
     
  4. Nov 9, 2021 at 11:13 AM
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    Front spring length/rate is too much for a stock weight vehicle wanting close to stock height. Not possible for most cases. For the rear, we have 3 different lift height options. I would stick to getting a -EXT rear shock, and dont plan to lift it more than 1-1.5". The -EXT can be run with no lift, or up to 1.5" lift.

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  5. Nov 9, 2021 at 11:23 AM
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    techtacoma What's rattling now?

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    Ah ok. That makes a lot of sense.
    So -EXT in the rears would allow me to keep it at stock height up to 1.5" (which honestly would be what I would do if I lifted).
    If I get 600lbs springs in the front, it'll sit apprx. 1" taller. What if I went with a 550lbs springs for the front?
     
  6. Nov 9, 2021 at 11:25 AM
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    Yes, thats all correct.

    We have some spring options we can offer you, shoot us a message and we can help you out.
     
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  7. Nov 9, 2021 at 8:25 PM
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    So what’s the consensus lift height on ext shocks with HD leaf pack? Is 3” still the top end you want to go? Any reason not to go 3”?
     
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  8. Nov 9, 2021 at 9:35 PM
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    There is no consensus. An open ended question like that will get 100 different opinions. :)
     
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    in regards to going up to 3” though? Or is 2.5” the sweet spot?
     
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    2.5 is about the max without possibly having trouble with CV axle and diff angles. You can go more but may shorten life of axles or boots unless other work is done or different lift design.
     
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    Few things to consider based on what we have seen over the years:
    -Tall rear lift, upwards o 2.5-3" usually means its too heavy/stiff of a leaf pack = stiff ride.
    -With a tall rear lift, big rake, we've seen quite a few people try and level out the front which ends up making the front coilovers too tall, and will also result in poor ride.
    -We would suggest focusing on total weight of the truck first, and how you plan on driving it mostly. Daily driver, towing, offroad warrior etc...
    -For anything more than an add-a-leaf, we usually recommend going with our modified Tundra shock to get that extra travel. However, it does require a 1" bump stop spacer to make up for the longer compressed length of the shock.
     
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    3” is the maximum the front suspension
    That is an often stated but rarely backed up assertion. I cannot refute it though.
     
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  13. Nov 10, 2021 at 7:18 AM
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    The sweet spot is subjective and dependent on your goals. I can tell you, in rough numbers, that 3rd gens come with 9" of suspension travel with 3" of down travel and 6" of up travel. Extended length shocks change this to 10" of travel with 4" of down travel and 6" of up travel. 0.5" of preload will change this to 3" of down travel and 7" of up travel. 1" of preload will change this to 2" of down travel and 8" of up travel. 1.5" of preload will change this to 1" of down travel and 9" of up travel. You do not want to have 0" of down travel. Take your pick.

    My personal goals are to improve ground clearance without sacrificing too much ride quality. I'll be the judge of ride quality using my butt dyno. Currently I have my king shocks at the setting they came from Headstrong with which is about a 1" lift. I plan to add 1" to the driver side and 0.5" to the passenger side to get me to about 2" of lift and 2" of down travel on both sides.
     
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    I can't back it up either. Just from what I've read. :hattip:
     
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    its a great resource for sure, but certainly not a one stop shop. As stated previously, there are a multitude of variables that cannot be covered with generalizations. You guys have been an amazing resource :cheers:
     
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    Anyone out here knows If a 5th Gen 4 Runner Front Kings Suspension with adjusters fits a 3rd Gen Tacoma? Thanks
     
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    If you simply follow the max length at ride height guidelines you are in pretty good hands. The only real exception is when your weight exceeds the springs and you have more than 1 1/2 inches of threads exposed, then you enter spring bind territory
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    Hey that chart looks familiar!
    Main difference is the reservoir mounting brackets and hose routing. Can it be made to work, sure, but you will need to get the bracket and have the hose fittings changed around.

    TACOMA:
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    I swear I have posted it with that link countless times.
     

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