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3rd gen regear?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by FredFundenpucker, Jun 30, 2022.

  1. Jul 1, 2022 at 11:26 AM
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    FredFundenpucker

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    I’ll try it next trip I take with it, I ordered this truck because I loved my 1990 taco so much back in the day and other than it’s manners on the highway this truck is great, but as I live on a 4 lane and it’s twenty miles to town I find myself taking my 3/4 diesel and leave this in the shed. I guess I’ll have to regear it or trade it for a manual.
     
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  2. Jul 1, 2022 at 11:35 AM
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    greyboxer

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    What you are describing is not a problem, it is an automatic transmission shifting.

    You got the KDmax tune? You can request an updated map, as I know they have some, which will let your truck hold gears longer. They have a specific map for that. @TWTaco or @PapaRee should be able to help.
     
  3. Jul 1, 2022 at 11:45 AM
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    FredFundenpucker

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    Yes I supposedly got the latest and greatest kdmax-xt on Sunday it did help its manners around town and it’s not doing the 2,3,4,3 thing when accelerating anymore, but this constantly shifting on flat roads or when a semi passes and his bow wave causes you to downshift is for the birds. I can’t believe you guys put up with this on a daily basis. I’m not doing 80 I cruise at 63-67mph and granted I’ve got the trd pro 265’s which are wider than most run stock, but damn. Thanks for the advice I’ll call my tuner and check. I do appreciate constructive advice.
     
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  4. Jul 1, 2022 at 12:01 PM
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    saint277

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    Last night driving home from work I did a little testing. To get actual mph numbers I used my gps. My tires are 255/80/17, my truck holds 6th going 70 mph on the tack (actually 75ish due to the larger tires) on flat and SLIGHT upward inclines. The tach reads about 1800 rpms. I try to go 65 (the mph gauge reads about 60ish) and the truck shifts to 5th and has about 2100 on the tach. I think trying to go 65 in sixth is a no go due to low rpms, as I'm sure you know lower rpms means less torque. Going slightly faster may be your ticket as it will pull the engine rpms up slightly and in will want to hold the gear a little better. I could not get my truck to hold any gear at 1600-1700 rpms unless I was on a slight down hill. I think your just running it right on the edge of the rpm range for a gear shift and it gets confused.
     
  5. Jul 1, 2022 at 12:05 PM
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    perterra

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    I just got back from a 1,000 miles on the road, coming from Alabama back to Texas, where the speed limits were 70, I put the cruise to 72 and just let it roll. Pretty much faultless, might drop a gear every 5 or 6 miles and the shift was pretty much imperceptible. Revs increased but no drama. Rolled in to east Texas and bumped the cruise to 80, rolling hills and outside of Tyler it went from 6th, to 5th, to 4th, back to 5th, back down to 4th, back to 5th then to 6th before dropping back to 5th. This happened in the amount of time it took you to read it. I cut the cruise back to 72 and moved to the right lane and spent the next two hours with either me running up on somebodies ass who was running 55 or somebody running up my ass who is traveling 85.
     
  6. Jul 1, 2022 at 12:07 PM
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    I was about to say the same.
    65mph in 6th gear you're probably only 1500-1600 RPM and thus very low on torque. Put it in S5 to bump the RPM over 2k (hopefully) or cruise 75-80mph (speed limit permitting) to cruise at hgher RPM and have more torque available.
     
  7. Jul 1, 2022 at 12:07 PM
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    The truck is slow. just sell it if you dont like it. high demand these days
     
  8. Jul 1, 2022 at 12:09 PM
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    perterra

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    That sucks, sounds like a problem somewhere. I do not have that problem at lower speeds
     
  9. Jul 1, 2022 at 12:28 PM
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    saint277

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    Now that I think about it, it make a lot of sense why so many people have this issue. 65mph is a very common speed in the USA, and Toyota put a shift point between 5/6 gears right at that rpm range. Of course a ton of people have complained about it, That's some poor design.
     
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  10. Jul 1, 2022 at 12:28 PM
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    I have the manual 6 speed
    You have the solution and trade it in on a manual and save the headaches.

    I got lucky, mine was ordered with options and the 6 speed but the buyer got tired of waiting and bought something else.
    He ordered the truck last November, the truck arrived in June. I bought it the next day.

    6 speed manuals are not easy to find sitting new on the lot.
     
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  11. Jul 1, 2022 at 12:32 PM
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    Don’t think I’m not kicking myself, I ordered mine in Sept and got it two weeks ago. I was going to order the manual, but the girls talked me out of it as the barely know how to drive my fj40 and town driving stick for them is quite a ways away.
     
  12. Jul 1, 2022 at 12:34 PM
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    You know it baby. Incomparable surge of torque everytime I feather the throttle. Chriping the tires at every single stoplight. Aroused women schwing to my truck from miles around due to the the rumbling tick of the 4.0L :rolleyes:

    edit - for clarity, my 4.0L is just as gutless as every other 4x4 Toyota I’ve owned lol
     
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    I'm so glad I got mine when I did. Dealer had two manuals sitting on the lot when I showed up. He said it's hard to sell manuals. I didn't want red or white so I said find me a gray one. A week later I had it.
     
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    Cool story
     
  15. Jul 1, 2022 at 5:21 PM
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    MT drivers are a lot like vegans. They think they’re special for doing something anyone can do, and never miss an opportunity to tell everyone that they are better than they are because of it
     
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    How do you know someone drives a manual? They'll tell you.
     
  17. Jul 1, 2022 at 9:17 PM
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    “Anyone” can’t drive a manual unless they’re over 45 lol.
     
  18. Jul 1, 2022 at 9:26 PM
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    That’s certainly what they like to tell each other...
    It seems like when you get your aarp card, you forget that at one point you didn’t know everything and that it’s possible to learn new things. It must be a chapter in the “how to tell kids to get off your lawn” manual
     
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  19. Jul 1, 2022 at 9:43 PM
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    Sounds fun the way you tell it lol. Of course anyone can learn to drive a manual. Fact is many younger drivers have never driven a manual and facts are facts. :)
    “The EPA’s statistics record sales of manual vehicles reaching a peak in the 1980s at around 30 percent, falling since then to under five percent of the total market.”
    “Few people can drive manual vehicles. U.S. News and World Report says as few as 18 percent of Americans can actually drive a manual transmission vehicle…”
    https://driversed.com/trending/how-to-drive-stick-shift
    It’s different in Europe, but here in the US those are the facts. Now GTFO my lawn with your silly talk. :rolleyes:
     
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  20. Jul 1, 2022 at 9:46 PM
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    Re gearing it will make feel better . It puts the motor in its rev range under normal conditions . The manuals are geared a little better out of the box. Before you do any thing drive it a little more and put more miles on it. I’ve driven one with 488 gears and it does feel nice . My 19 has had the current TSB and now has 28 k miles and I left the gears stock. It drives totally fine now. It learned how I drive
     
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