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3rd gen - True crawlin thread.

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by In4aride, Jun 10, 2019.

  1. Nov 20, 2020 at 10:18 PM
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    Ok so.... we’re going to put a large sway bar in the rear. To the tops of the axles. That will stabilize the rear end. Than load 400 lbs of weight on the rear acting like my bed spare and my jack. Drive it around and see if I like it. If not I’ll buy new shocks and find another way... the gas tank might have go. I figured out how to make the smog pump work with a fuel cell.
     
  2. Nov 21, 2020 at 10:57 AM
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    In4aride

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    Pile of go slow parts.
    Your spare and jack shouldn't weigh 400 #. Maybe 200#.

    Take your lower frame side mounts and take them outboard what you can. Whatever the math and clearances allow for you to go outboard, go. It's going to eliminate what tiny bit of triangulation you had on the lowers, so upper is going to see more load.
    Anyway. Move em out. Go to a 12" ish shock and mount it at the front of your wheel well. It'll be close to the frame there, but should clear. If anything taking a section of the frame out and plating it in to fill will allow it to fit. Keep bushing frame side and hard joint axle side since you'll be needing to keep the link in line. I'd ditch the tube and go to a boxed trailing arm no doubt.
    If you aren't going to hack the frame or do some goofy shit like we did, the 16's are never going to work. No need to reinvent the wheel, just apply what's already known to the project. Save yourself a ton of time and headache.
    Also, whoever is seasoned telling you to do this nonsense, either listen better if you are halfway doing what they say, or toss em in the trash because you've gone further back each time.
    IMHO. Ymmv.
     
  3. Nov 21, 2020 at 5:45 PM
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    Yep to all that! I got some new 10” fox dsc coil overs and. 10” Triple Bypass and there both going in front of the tire on the trailing arm. There is room. Making new shock mounts out of bent 1.5 .120 wall DOM tubing and dumping the flat steel bent shock towers... and it will all fit in my fender wells leaving all my bed space for my stuff... I think I’m on the right path.. anyone need 16” shocks cheep?
     
  4. Nov 21, 2020 at 6:01 PM
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    In4aride

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    Pile of go slow parts.
    There's room in the wheel well for both and the tire? Doesn't need to be in the bed in front of the wheel well? I'm not familiar with the long bed
     
  5. Nov 21, 2020 at 6:11 PM
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    How do you guys feel about an e locker in the front vs air locker. I've ran ARBs in the past with success after a bad seal from the factory. It seems arb is having more and more problems with air leaks. Any thoughts?
     
  6. Nov 21, 2020 at 6:29 PM
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    With front diffs I like how quickly air lockers disengage so when I get one that’s the route I’m going
     
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  7. Nov 21, 2020 at 6:32 PM
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    In4aride

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    This. The e lockers take some rotation to engage or disengage. Makes it hard to re-engage after adjusting your line. Arb is less than satisfying, but better of the options.
     
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    After seeing both the Harrup and the ARB there are some weak points in that harrup that could be more of a mechanical breakage. I've got buddies with leaky ones the pump just cycles and it still works. I know they can fail to the point of not working. I haven't seen as many failures recently supposedly they changed suppliers or design or something so they aren't having the issues they were for a while. TJM I think also makes an air locker not sure about them compared to the ARB though.
     
  9. Nov 21, 2020 at 6:41 PM
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    That's why I lean ARB plus who doesn't want the super overlander compressor under the hood. Do all e lockers need the half rotation to engage? I've dealt with it in the rear with the factory locker.
     
  10. Nov 21, 2020 at 6:42 PM
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    In4aride

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    Depends on the load on it. It's not always as easy or difficult to unload.
     
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  11. Nov 21, 2020 at 6:44 PM
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    No the some of the ones for the bigger axles like an OX and such do not require the rotation to engage or disengage. I've just got the mini locker only compressor and have it mounted in an ammo box in the bed. I'm not overlandy cool enough for a giant compressor under the hood.
     
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  12. Nov 21, 2020 at 6:58 PM
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    I'll keep my eyes out for a black friday deal on an ARB. Probably the smartest next significant thing I should do. With @In4aride bumper coming and relocating the rear shocks and running some 14" billsteins a front locker should really bring it all together. Probably money better spent than thousands on a LT kit for the front.
     
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  13. Nov 21, 2020 at 6:59 PM
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    Pile of go slow parts.
    Front locker makes all the things better for sure. See how long our front holds up to it.
     
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  14. Nov 21, 2020 at 7:01 PM
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    Yeah that's why I haven't done it. I broke several axles on my tundra with the front locked. Don't get me wrong with the rear locker and the silly traction aids it has for the front, which I do love making fun of, work surprisingly well. It's been nice not breaking axles.
     
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  15. Nov 21, 2020 at 7:04 PM
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    Here in the SE you gotta hit the same trails and obstacles a lot harder than with a locker so you break a lot of other things as well as axles. It's a give and take. I can swap an axle on the trail in about an hr and carry a couple spares. Locker her up and let her crawl.
     
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    Yep. Out here in co and west/southwest trails traction is king and low throttle inputs help keep things alive. Also smart to know when to turn it off to prevent unnecessary binding. It's a balance for sure. I'm all about the crawl. Never been a big throttle guy, I'll pull cable first.
     
  17. Nov 21, 2020 at 7:10 PM
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    I'm the same way. My buddy in his first gen sends which is always entertaining. Doesn't work as well in our heavy trucks. Especially with our throttle being limited to 25% in 4 low anyway.
     
  18. Nov 21, 2020 at 7:18 PM
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    Really yall are limited to 1/4 throttle that kinda stinks. My 05 we can go full ham if you feel the need or need to, which I have needed all the beans. Getting up some of our slick rock water falls can require some full send.
    I wish we were a little more grippy here so we didn't need as much throttle as we do in some cases it would be a lot less violent.
     
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  19. Nov 21, 2020 at 7:21 PM
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    Yeah 60 percent in 4 high. Not anymore for me I adjusted them to 100 percent.
     
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    That's nuts. Sheesh so glad my 05 has the least amount of electronic controls. But there are some advantages to them as well.
     

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