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3rd gen - True crawlin thread.

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by WarFab Armor, Jun 10, 2019.

  1. Dec 16, 2020 at 7:39 PM
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    WarFab Armor

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    Nope. Ditched the tj after the knee surgery since ax5 and didn't want to swap on a 2.5.
    They are just waiting from the go/no go from toyota. Still on hold.
     
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  2. Dec 16, 2020 at 8:11 PM
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    I could try to destroy my bedsides, I was going to wait to wheel hard until my warfab bumper is ready
     
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  3. Dec 16, 2020 at 8:15 PM
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    You can wheel ocg pretty mild.
    Pending snow and slick. With that it's anyone's guess.
     
  4. Dec 16, 2020 at 8:31 PM
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    It's much easier to use rocks to remove your bumper. I used Golden Spike to remove mine
     
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  5. Dec 16, 2020 at 8:46 PM
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    PCV leak into 5 and 6?
     
  6. Dec 20, 2020 at 6:16 AM
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    Even the 4.0 we get a big dump into the catch can at certain angles. Like my last wheeling trip I was at a 50+* angle in a ditch leaned to the DS and then the RF raised to where I was tilted way back too about 30* or so I filled the catch can at those extremes.
     
  7. Dec 20, 2020 at 6:40 AM
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    I guess I don't know what there is to be convinced of? If you understand the pcv system and what the catch can does, there is no convincing necessary. You just kinda get it. :notsure:
    Would you be ok dumping that much water in your motor? The results are the same.
     
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  8. Dec 20, 2020 at 7:36 AM
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    Pile of go slow parts.
    I had one, but unfortunately our rig doesnt take priority over getting product out, so I didnt get time to install.
    Mix in the fact that I was researching keeping the pcv but going to a 3 hose setup on each side vs the single at the back on DS only. Ultimately that would be the overall best case option as these rigs see higher rpm for DD use or trips (peak tq at 4800, hp at 6000). While there isnt a lot of crank pressure at that rpm, its an issue to keep in mind when going to catch can with out a positive vacuum source. Suddenly your gaskets and shit become a concern. Especially on a truck that has an issue with rear main and front cover leaks in factory form and low mileage. There isnt a one size fits all solution to this. There is a lot that goes into it. Slow crawler toy only? catch can and vent it. Otherwise, you are compromising one way or the other.
     
  9. Dec 20, 2020 at 8:39 AM
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    You forgot that keeping the PCV and trying to make that work is the best scenario for the environment than just a straight CCV to the atmosphere. At high angles you'd just dump all that oil out and then onto the ground and during normal driving those gases just go into the atmosphere.

    The hose that goes from the valve cover to the intake pre TB is the one that vents during high RPM 0 vacuum situations. That's when the PCV valve shuts and that one takes over. So reality that catch can is only doing us good at catching oil like you said putt putting around slow and in vacuum.
     
  10. Dec 20, 2020 at 8:40 AM
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    For anyone curious about the pcv, catch can, mounting options, modifications, or deletions of any of the above, I suggest searching pirate. Lots of build threads for koh, comp crawlers, dd's, and tow rigs where the differences in pcv setups or lack there of are discussed and things are explained in great detail about how they work, when they don't, and the compromises of each. Worth the reads, however it can be a huge rabbit hole.
     
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  11. Dec 20, 2020 at 8:44 AM
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    Right. Catch can to atmosphere. Just a vent is a bad idea anyway. Anyone that's ever had a 4.0 jeep with the pcv deleted for a filter knows what a mess and shit show that is. Also creates crank pressure issues with preventing quality oiling, fuel in oil (not good at all). Kills il and therefore motor. Just a filter valve sucks, and they hardly every work anyway. Messy, etc. Catch can if no pcv. Then vent. Catch can location changes things. As does pcv pickup location(s). - where the idea of the 3 side comes in -. It's all compromises.


    Eta- sort of was leaving out basics as I would hope anyone looking at deleting it modifying a system would have at least a general understanding of it's functions
     
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  12. Dec 20, 2020 at 8:51 AM
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    I was reading some of the stuff on pirate. It's a huge rabit hole to say the least. I remember something on there with guys making the hoses as long as they could and wrapping around the engine in a big loop and making curly cues in the hose to trap the oil in extremely high angle or roll over situations. They get pretty crazy.
     
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  13. Dec 20, 2020 at 8:55 AM
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    One of the best I say was the.....rocket build?.... Anyway. They did multiple pickups for the pcv system. Oil being heavier than air, the vacuum should move to the hoses with air and not submerged in oil. Retains pcv but also helps minimize the amount of oil sucked in. Started down that rabbit hole and seemed like the best overall solution without completely bypassing the pcv setup.
     
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    I'd like to mess with mine more than just the catch can, but..............it's working for what it is and I have more pressing things to do and deal with. Plus the 4.0 doesn't seem as susceptible to issues like the 3.5.
     
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    Thanks @JoeCOVA for the kick ass time. One of the baddest Tacoma’s I’ve had the pleasure to wheel with.
     
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    Still need to go wheel with that guy. How was, what is left of, v notch, muddy? That's a good bit of snow.
     
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    I highly recommend wheeling with Joe. Solid guy that loves wheeling and isn’t scared. He knows the risks and accepts it. We ended up busting out a tail light and just kept going like it wasn’t a big deal.

    It was so damn slick, it was crazy. Joe took the far right line and crawled it after busting up his tail light. I was rather impressed with the performance. His Kings just soaked up the trail.
     
  18. Dec 21, 2020 at 8:12 AM
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    Likewise, was an absolute blast!! Was great to check out your TJ and get some ideas/inspiration.

    Between @In4aride and I we might have a working set of taillights HA. Hopefully he can come out when he stops blowing up engines. :) :boink:


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    One of these things is not like the other.

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    I didn't know you had a 3rd gen. I guess I never really asked. Truck looks great and looks like a solid time! :thumbsup:
     
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  20. Dec 21, 2020 at 8:33 AM
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    Hahaha. Low blow. Can't get over how much v notch has changed. Once I get back to running should be just in time for wheeling season.
     

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