3rd Gen VS 2nd Gen VS 1st Gen drag race

You're missing the point. The lexus mentioned was pointing out that the same 3.5 v6 is used in other cars, which is an answer to "No balls" and 0-50. Yes, tuning it doesn't make it stock, but definitely not a reason to be a deciding factor in purchasing gen 2 over gen 3. I'm saying it was a deciding factor because that's what you stated. As for the manual experience, I did say I've read that the auto tranny learns your shifting up to 5000 miles. Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I believe you missed the point really. Especially since you can't tune the engine to be like the one in the Lexus, so the point it mute along with the comparison.

 

Also its worth pointing out that they are different engines, but from the same family. Not the same engine.

 

LOL okay, so no comment on anything else I've said?

I guess one day we can compare our theories.

 

I read it all. The only thing you are making any sense about it the transmission learning shifting. And since I don't know as a fact, I stayed away from it. Everything else was just nonsense, especially the Lexus and tuning comparison.

That being said, the new automatic and engine has been getting much grief the last couple years. Not just by forum members here, but also by magazines and the like. From what I gather the 6 speed is the only way to go in the 3rd gen. Interesting though as the 2nd gens the 6 speed was the one to avoid.

 

It's the same engine as the Lexus gs350 among others. And the manual is a ton quicker than the auto. This has been beaten to death.

 

Yes, the manual will make it quicker. (Source: Car and Driver)

2016 DCSB 4x4 Off Road manual 0-60 7.3 sec, 1/4 mile 15.8 @ 89 mph
2016 DCSB 4x4 Limited auto 0-60 7.9 sec, 16.1 @ 91 mph
2016 DCSB 4x4 Off Road auto 0-60 8.1 sec, 16.2 @ 91 mph
2017 DCSB 4x4 TRD Pro auto 0-60 7.7 sec, 16.0 @ 89 mph

Also worth noting:
2005 DCLB 4x4 SR5 manual 0-60 7.4, 16.1 @ 87 mph
2015 DCSB 4x4 TRD Pro auto 0-60 7.3, 15.9 @ 87 mph

 

Right, manual is faster in under powered cars like a honda civic or a heavy truck like tacoma. However, in higher HP cars, an automatic or DCT is much faster than an manual since you're talking about milliseconds to shift versus a whole second or two.

Seriously, they're trucks. Who gives a shit when a toyota camry can outrun them all lol. Do people really care about how fast (read: slow) their trucks are? Even with a supercharger you're no faster than a v6 family sedan.

 

I have no issues with the 2gr-fe motor that is in our 2016 Sienna. It has good torque and power. I believe it may be the Atkinson cycle that reduces the bottom end torque. Which is what a truck needs to be worthy of being called a truck. No disrespect to those who like it the way it is. It just my opinion.

 

I have a hard time taking that quote from whoever posted that seriously when they are claiming the tacoma engine is "prioritizing low end grunt and maintaining torque" If this were wholy true then the tacoma would actually have more torque then the Lexus. But its still down on both accounts, significantly at that.

Again like i said originally, a pointless comparison.

 

You guys need to sell your tacomas and get something different. I like my truck is it perfect no, but I bet you it's still running at 200k and will still bring good money.

 

This forum is just as bad as the Honda forums I'm on. Good lord lol

 

LoL I can't believe people are bringing up DCT's and and Honda cars... enjoy your trucks and quit arguing. Yes the manual is faster by almost a second, but we have a downside our MPG is the worse than autos, some people rather have MPG and comfort in traffic. Personally I can care less about gas mileage, hence why I own a truck. 2nd gens are faster but not as luxurious as a 3rd gen. I LOVE MY TACO! There I said it.

 

Hey, no one is arguing. I was merely quoting what I've read about the engines being the same. I didn't say go drag race our tacomas, just that the same engine is used in lexus and can be tuned to get more HP and torque. Which would be nice in a truck, since it's heavier than a sedan. But I am curious to see what people experience with the auto tranny, like how the shifting is after 5000 miles. Still, you can never go wrong with tacomas, in terms of reliability, performance, and having the best resale value of any car and truck out there. Except maybe wranglers. I honestly don't care about anything else, I'm just excited to be picking up my truck today!