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  1. Apr 10, 2018 at 8:44 PM
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    On a related note, 05Taco4x4 and I have been having a gentlemens discuss on design topology and wanted to solicit the community's opinion. There are two views.

    View 1: All the mounting bolts for the 3RZ SC to the adapter should be drilled through the adapter plate and counter sink the bolt's head into the adapter. This view does not utilize any studs in the design.

    View 2: Utilize mounting studs on the 3RZ side of the adapter to mount the SC to the plate. This design does not require holes to be drilled through the adapter to mount it to the SC.

    Both views have things to consider for reliability and longevity. View 1 removes the concern of stripping the aluminum threads from the adapter by over-tightening the studs when it is installed or by over-tightening the nut on the studs when mounting the adapter to the SC. View 2 is well supported by car manufacturers as seen by the heads are aluminum with studs supporting both the intake and exhaust manifold. There may be other factors to consider.

    We would like the Tacoma community to weight in. Which view would you, as the potential consumer, prefer? Cast your vote by posting "View 1" or "View 2".
     
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  2. Apr 10, 2018 at 8:46 PM
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    It's less Tacoma and more mod
    I'd vote view two, less thread damage possibility and ARP makes stronger studs for 3RZ SC mounting.
     
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  3. Apr 11, 2018 at 5:31 AM
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    My votes for view 2 as well
     
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  4. Apr 11, 2018 at 3:43 PM
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    I would vote for studs over countersunk allen heads. If one of those allen bolts loosened up, you would have to remove the whole SC to re-torque it. With studs, you could just re-torque it. If you're worried about stripping the threaded stud holes in the aluminum, you could design in steel drill bushings and thread those to take the threads. If you just have the threads in the aluminum and strip one, you can repair it with a threaded insert. You would want to make sure that there is enough material around the threaded holes in the adapter design to allow for the use of threaded inserts if it was ever necessary.
     
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  5. Apr 11, 2018 at 10:53 PM
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    View 1.

    Its how I would do it at this point
     
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    View 2 makes more sense to me. Loctite thread locker, thread in stud and be done. It will be stronger, and less wear and tear on other components during repeated removal and install for stripped counter sunk allen heads. Embedding threads in aluminum is fine if you include a torque spec on install.
     
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  7. Apr 13, 2018 at 11:35 AM
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    View 2 seems like the better bet IMHO.
     
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    The community has spoken. View 2: utilize studs, is the preferred and shall be in the final design.

    Thanks everyone for your feedback. We appreciate it.
     
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  9. Apr 13, 2018 at 12:38 PM
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    Shit...we appreciate yall more. The pioneers of a reliable 2tr forced induction system
     
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    Glad someone is makin this reality.
    I decided to go the V8 route
    :anonymous:
     
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    I tossed that idea around...I am going turbo diesel route
     
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    Tdi?

    Oh no I think I remember you saying 1kd
     
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    With engine management?

    Wonder if swapping an r151f would make a swap like that easier as well
     
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    I can’t wait for this to come to fruition, this is the next best thing to a diesel swap lol
     
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    I want to SC, turbo, twin charge and engine swap.
    Idk what I’m going to do, I have a few toes in each lol
     
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    They won’t, I gave up hope lol although I agree
     
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