4.6i in Tacoma

Considering that I specifically WANTED the 4-cyl.... YOU TELL ME why I would want to PAY MORE for an 8.

Answer: NO BLOODY WAY. There is NO benefit to it. Just more upfront cost, and burns more gas.

 

It's a pickup, jackass, not a Ferrrari. Drive it slow, like a truck. Slow down for corners and turns, don't brake/accel/brake/accell in traffic. Leave a gap in front of you and take it easy on your brakes in traffic...

I don't need a V8 in my truck. Two more cylinders worth of moving parts to break.

 

I think you've misrepresented my position. It does't bother me. However, that doesn't mean it's an optimal experience.

"unlocking" power by pushing the go pedal is such a gross simplification of torque and power curves. There's a lot more to a power band and the way an engine FEELS than just peak power. In the times when power utilization is needed, it's optimal to have torque all over the powerband so the transmission doesn't have to downshift 1-2 times and there isn't a delay in "unlocking" the power.

Wouldn't you find it optimal if, while cruising around in 4th or 5th at 45 mph, you were able to give it a little extra throttle up a hill and had the torque to keep it in that gear without it having to downshift 2 times because the engine is lugging, because torque at 1500 rpms is so low?

 

Had a nice 4.6 L v-8 in one of my 2nd gen Tundras, got 18.5 mpg on stock tires, average over months at a time. Same engine, same tune in a Tacoma would get significantly better milage being smaller in size and weight. Power under the curve, a lot of people just see numbers, it's the way the power is distributed that counts. Current 3.5 in the Tacoma is a great example of this, nice numbers, not a lot down low where we drive every day, giving the feeling of less power available. Rev it up and it's fine.

 

I think many people would purchase that option. Especially if they're used to driving a full-size truck and are moving down to a mid-size. Power was a big concern I had when going from my Ram 1500 to my Tacoma. However, I can say that I don't want for power at all in my manual transmission '17 TRD Sport. I love it more than I ever liked my Ram, but would I go with the 4.6L if offered in a manual? Heck yes!

Toyota will never do it though. It'll cannibalize the Tundra sales.

 

When V8 was an option on the mid sizes the Tacoma competed with it only sold well when the manufacturer forced it down the consumers throat. Just look up the sales for the 5.3L V8 Colorado. GM put that truck out because of the fanboy push for it and then... yeah almost no one ponied up the cash for it. The Dakota V8 sold better but then again look at what was available on the lot. If you wanted a Dakota with any options and 4 doors, you had to get a V8. Those days are dead under CAFE.

Tacomaworld is famous for this. Overestimating the amount of people who want an F150 in a Tacoma body for a Lexus price.

 

I'll check out the bronco, but I wont dive any further into a ford product unless its an f350 or above

 

I have been saying this from day one.
The 3.5 is too small for a truck.
It's ok but has to work too hard and rev too much.
With all the new tech, transmission and smaller engine we only picked up 1 MPG overall.
A smaller engine and a double overdrive, good thinking Toyota. (But you can throw in some 4.56 gears and still drive on the hwy.)

The 4.6 wold be a perfect fit, they already make it and it will bolt right in.
They also use it in the GX460.

When you add some weight and bigger tires a V8 would be much better than a V6.
With the extra torque the V8 will probably get really close to the same MPG and tow much better.

Toyota was just trying to meet CAFE regulations and being cheap and lazy.
They should have made an updated 4.0 or added the 4.6 as an option.

Hopefully Trump deregulates the auto industry and we can get a bigger engine....

 

The problem with the 4Runner was the full time 4wheel drive that ate gas like crazy.

Production cost between a V6 and V8 are very small.
Toyota is just very conservative.
The Tundras are designed here that's why they get good engines.

 

I think the current 3.5 Tacoma is geared to high. These trucks should have had a 4.56 in the auto from the factory.

 

They could add a 4.56 gear option for people that want more power.

The only gears I see available right now are 4.88 and with a 33" tire would still be ok...
But it would suck to regear a brand new truck.

 

I agree, be the perfect truck with a set of 4.56's in it from the factory.

 

if it had 4.56s wouldn't that lower mpg a couple miles per gallon?

 

It's actually pretty ridiculous to have to run all the way to redline for peak power... which means there is very little power under normal driving conditions. Even with your foot in this thing, its all I can do to keep from getting run smooth over merging onto the highway! I can't even imagine trying to do that pulling a trailer! I love the truck overall but I would prefer it move out when I put some pedal down! High rpm power is pointless unless you actually stay up in that range. How the hell you gonna stay that close to redline and blowing the damn thing up to use the power that is there? Transmission can't like being in that kind of a bind constantly. My .02 though.

 

V8? No thanks

I have no issues with the current engine in my 3rd gen. Reading these posts makes me feel like there is something wrong with me cause I ABSOLUTELY love the 3.5L V6 in my TRD OR. Of course I came from a 2000 Nissan Xterra and the 3.3L in that SUV was a dog.

I drive in the mountains constantly (without ECT on) and the truck will hold 65mpg up grade easy and downshifts smooth and easy when need be. Power is more than adequate for my needs and wants in a mid-size truck doing mid-size truck things. Obviously I voted $0 as I feel the V8 should be reserved for the full size crowd and the needs of that truck.

 

If they offered a V8 at the same price as the V6 I would obviously go for the V8. Who doesn't want more power. MURICA! However with that said I don't need a V8 and if I needed one I would have bought the Tundra. V6 does everything I need it to do. So I'm good.

 

Toyota reduced the engine displacement for the third gen, and you are wondering why they don't offer a V8?

 

I bet it would actually get better mpgs.

Had a 2016 Serria SLT 4x4. It got better mpgs than my taco does.

 

I would trade that for more torque any day of the week.

 

There is a V8 option, it's called a Tundra. You guys that say the Tacoma would get same or better gas mileage and better towing if you stick that V8 into a Tacoma are funny. First of all that V8 will add weight to the Tacoma with the engine itself and the increased support. That power is not free and there are sacrifices made to put it into a mid sized. As far as towing, if you stick whatever the latest Hemi into a Wrangler, it'll still tow approx 3500lbs because of its wheelbase. Same principle applies here.