1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

401k and investments

Discussion in 'Stocks & Investments' started by 4banger4x4, Apr 14, 2014.

  1. Apr 17, 2014 at 9:23 AM
    #41
    Yota64

    Yota64 Professional Threadjacker

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Member:
    #58237
    Messages:
    7,967
    Gender:
    Male
    I will look into that. I researched Edward Jones before I invested with them, and got a lot of negativity about the fees and some positive feedback as well. Do you (or anyone else here) have experience with them (Or other brick and mortar investing companies)?
     
  2. Apr 17, 2014 at 9:38 AM
    #42
    Lurkin

    Lurkin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2009
    Member:
    #17497
    Messages:
    22,374
    First Name:
    Rod
    Pearland, TX
    Vehicle:
    09 PreRunner SR5 DC
    Personally no, and no on the brick and morter places. All my money is in employer 401k's, and rollovers and non-retirement $$$ is in Vanguard. IMHO, if you have a choice stick with Vanguard or TIAA-CREF as they seem to stay true to consideration for the investor, as opposed to money making for themselves (e.g., lower fees, control manager turnover, no 12b-1 fees). I'm sure there are others though, this is where the research comes in.

    I'll say this again too, nothing wrong with opening an investment account with whomever makes sense to you, then just stick the money into a money market, or some safe cash alternative until you get comfortable with the funds/investments you want. Losing a few months of possible gains is probably cheaper then losses, buy/sell fees or redemption fees to change.
     
  3. Apr 17, 2014 at 9:46 AM
    #43
    Yota64

    Yota64 Professional Threadjacker

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Member:
    #58237
    Messages:
    7,967
    Gender:
    Male
    So with something like Vanguard you just do all the research yourself and make your own decisions on investments? I'm stuck with EJ right now as I have a lot in there, but I'm confident that it will be profitable in the future. What is a TIAA-CREF?
     
  4. Apr 17, 2014 at 10:29 AM
    #44
    velillen

    velillen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2013
    Member:
    #118589
    Messages:
    5,933
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nick
    Wyoming
    Vehicle:
    2011 Access Cab 4x4
    Vanguard let's you buy exactly what you want as long as they offer it. Low fees. But most funds have a 3k minimum investment as well.

    They do offer financial planning as well but not sure how it is. It's still pretty new from them.
     
  5. Apr 17, 2014 at 10:34 AM
    #45
    Yota64

    Yota64 Professional Threadjacker

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Member:
    #58237
    Messages:
    7,967
    Gender:
    Male
    That isn't an issue. I think I'm going to keep pumping money into my EJ account since I already have it though. Why do some people have multiple accounts?
     
  6. Jun 20, 2014 at 11:07 AM
    #46
    T Fades

    T Fades Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Member:
    #61862
    Messages:
    2,776
    Gender:
    Male
    Simi Valley, CA
    Vehicle:
    '11 PreRunner V6 2wd DCLB
    Satoshi, debadged, rear view mirror bracket, tail gate hose clamps, trimmed mud flaps.
    I understand a Capital Preservation Fund is less likely to have significant market fluctuations (good or bad), and is best for people nearing retirement to try to maintain/preserve wealth.

    What could cause these Capital Preservation Funds to decline? Are they tied to the bond market? If that is it the case, I fear that when interest rates finally rise, the bond market will suffer.
     
  7. Jul 26, 2014 at 9:16 PM
    #47
    CA05OR

    CA05OR Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2014
    Member:
    #131659
    Messages:
    28
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Left Coast
    Vehicle:
    05 Off Road DCSB
    ECGS Bushing, electric tailgate lock, illuminated 4x4 switch.
    Newb here to tacomas, but have been in the finance world for a while. Answer is a little late, but you are correct here, capital preservation funds are bond heavy (generally in U.S. Treasuries and Agencies). Much lower systematic risk but you are correct about rising rates hurting your returns.
     
  8. Sep 11, 2014 at 11:59 PM
    #48
    Yota64

    Yota64 Professional Threadjacker

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Member:
    #58237
    Messages:
    7,967
    Gender:
    Male
    Does anyone still read this? I have proudly stopped funding my EJ account (Mostly) and am now independently buying stocks with Scottrade. Made my first profit today.
     
  9. Sep 12, 2014 at 1:09 AM
    #49
    ToyComa84

    ToyComa84 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2011
    Member:
    #67906
    Messages:
    377
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt(hew)
    "flatland"
    Vehicle:
    03 prerunner sr5
    plasti dipped wheel caps,
    sub'd -time for bed . . .or is it??? . . . . zz peace out
     
  10. Sep 12, 2014 at 5:03 PM
    #50
    CA05OR

    CA05OR Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2014
    Member:
    #131659
    Messages:
    28
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Left Coast
    Vehicle:
    05 Off Road DCSB
    ECGS Bushing, electric tailgate lock, illuminated 4x4 switch.
    Yep, I'm still reading. :wave:

    I assume you got rid of your advisor and are buying the stocks you want for yourself without the fees associated? Or are you talking 401K?
     
  11. Sep 16, 2014 at 8:38 PM
    #51
    GREEKBOY12295

    GREEKBOY12295 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2012
    Member:
    #84181
    Messages:
    5,040
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nick
    Phoenix, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2005 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner
    Radflo 2.5 Coilovers, Viper Alarm 5902, Bilstein 5100's, Polk Speakers, Blacked out grille and Emblems, All Pro 3" leafs, Pioneer AVH-4300 Double Din, BHLM, 4" Maxtrac Spindle, Aero Turbine 2525xl, Ultra Gauge, Rockford Fosgate 300 mono amp, 10" Kicker CVR
    Who is looking at Alibaba!!?? I put half the money in my portfolio into Yahoo about a week before Alibabas IPO. Im already into the profits and I am waiting for the big day this friday. After that I am dumping Yahoo almost immediately.
     
  12. Sep 16, 2014 at 8:47 PM
    #52
    Yota64

    Yota64 Professional Threadjacker

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Member:
    #58237
    Messages:
    7,967
    Gender:
    Male
    I didn't get rid of my advisor because my EJ is still in the red. To withdraw would be to finalize my losses. Once the stocks I have in there go up enough to compensate for the fees I paid I am withdrawing my money and putting it into my scottrade account or another market account. And I don't know anything about 401Ks.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/BABA?link=quicklinks#

    Why does this show 0.00?
     
  13. Sep 16, 2014 at 8:50 PM
    #53
    GREEKBOY12295

    GREEKBOY12295 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2012
    Member:
    #84181
    Messages:
    5,040
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Nick
    Phoenix, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2005 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner
    Radflo 2.5 Coilovers, Viper Alarm 5902, Bilstein 5100's, Polk Speakers, Blacked out grille and Emblems, All Pro 3" leafs, Pioneer AVH-4300 Double Din, BHLM, 4" Maxtrac Spindle, Aero Turbine 2525xl, Ultra Gauge, Rockford Fosgate 300 mono amp, 10" Kicker CVR
    The stock has not started trading yet! Friday! it is expected to be the biggest stock to ever open up!
     
  14. Sep 17, 2014 at 6:27 PM
    #54
    Yota64

    Yota64 Professional Threadjacker

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Member:
    #58237
    Messages:
    7,967
    Gender:
    Male
    So... We buy it?
     
  15. Sep 21, 2014 at 1:00 AM
    #55
    G17GUY

    G17GUY Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2008
    Member:
    #8250
    Messages:
    182
    Modesto Ca
    Vehicle:
    tacoma
    spining hub caps chrome stick-on trim new car smell air freshiner stering wheel suicide knob nut sack on hitch back window curtain
    Outch.
     
  16. Sep 21, 2014 at 1:04 AM
    #56
    G17GUY

    G17GUY Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2008
    Member:
    #8250
    Messages:
    182
    Modesto Ca
    Vehicle:
    tacoma
    spining hub caps chrome stick-on trim new car smell air freshiner stering wheel suicide knob nut sack on hitch back window curtain
    You guys realize that stock trading is as bad as gambling, the odds are stacked aganst you.

    A three fund portfolio, in low cost INDEX funds is low maintenance and the only way to guarantee your fair share of stock market returns.
     
  17. Sep 21, 2014 at 1:59 AM
    #57
    robssol

    robssol If it ain't broke, leave it the eff alone!

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2013
    Member:
    #105622
    Messages:
    7,681
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    S. Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    06 Tacoma, TRD Sport, SR5, 4X4, AC
    Totaled but still alive! Frame 2.0, Fog lights anytime, Seatbelt reminder delete, Secondary air filter delete, LED bed lights, Running boards, 2017 Rims, Ultra gauge, Cup holder/consol/glove compartment lights, Interior LED conversion, Blue Sea aux. fuse panel, fuse panel mounting plate by Yotamac, ProEFX heated towing mirrors, LED engine bay lights, Redline Quicklift Elite hood struts, Wet Okole Heated Seat Covers,m, Rear bumper 2.0, Decal free visors, Washable cabin air filter, Overhead consol auto dimming override switch, BulletProof Fabricating Skid plate, 2lo module.
    X2
    Contribute to employer 401k to the match, $5500/yr. into a Roth IRA, back to the 401k to total 15% of your gross income.
     
  18. Sep 21, 2014 at 2:13 AM
    #58
    2ski4life7

    2ski4life7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2012
    Member:
    #77911
    Messages:
    2,207
    Gender:
    Male
    Seattle WA
    Vehicle:
    17 DCLB 4x4 TRD Off Road Previously '12 DCLB 4x4 SR5
    Stocks are very risky. Parents lost almost a million in the crash in the 90's

    What I am doing now is contributing first to my Roth and then to an 401k but my company doesn't match. If your company matches I would put into that first until you max the matching by the company.
     
  19. Sep 22, 2014 at 9:59 PM
    #59
    G17GUY

    G17GUY Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2008
    Member:
    #8250
    Messages:
    182
    Modesto Ca
    Vehicle:
    tacoma
    spining hub caps chrome stick-on trim new car smell air freshiner stering wheel suicide knob nut sack on hitch back window curtain
    Yahoo was up 27% from mid june of this year till baba released. This was driven from the baba release. Prior to this yahoo was struggling. If it were me i would dump yahoo asap.
     
  20. Sep 22, 2014 at 10:03 PM
    #60
    Yota64

    Yota64 Professional Threadjacker

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Member:
    #58237
    Messages:
    7,967
    Gender:
    Male
    I understand the stock market could crash at any time and anything you put in there you should consider possibly gone, but I would not equate it to gambling (unless you gamble with your stocks) as usually a lot more research goes into it and makes it an educated guess.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top