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5100's and Camber, and yes I searched

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Scubasteve4533, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. Nov 1, 2011 at 6:48 PM
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    Just got my truck back from the dealership and they were kind enough to install my 5100's at the same time for free! I took the shocks in set up at the 1.75 setting but they adjusted them down to the .85 without telling me (cant complain with free labor though) Anyways, got the alignment info and wanted to see whta you guys thought.

    Caster was 1.4L 1.5R
    Camber 1.0 on both
    Toe was 0

    Caster and Toe seem fine to me, the Camber makes me a little nervous. I know some camber is good for handling in corners, however will I start chewing up my tires with that setting?

    Thanks in advance


    UPDATE!!!

    moved the 5100s to 1.75 and got her realigned.

    Front Left
    Toe: -.01
    Caster: 1.5
    Camber: .3

    Front Right
    Toe: .01
    Caster: 2.1
    Camber: 0.0

    Seems alot better to be. still drives the same but that wasnt an issue, i was just concerned about tire wear.
     
  2. Nov 1, 2011 at 7:02 PM
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    Yes, camber is too high. Should be much closer to 0.
     
  3. Nov 2, 2011 at 5:44 AM
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    The reason I ask is stock its set to .6 for camber and after 15000 miles there is no noticable wear on the tires.

    It has always been my understanding that if Toe is what eats up tires not camber.
     
  4. Nov 2, 2011 at 5:47 AM
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    Out of camber will eat tires too. Just depends on how far out it is.
     
  5. Nov 2, 2011 at 5:49 AM
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    Toe and Camber both wear your tires, Caster is the only one that does not affect tire wear.

    I agree, Camber is too high, should be closer to 0 or you'll start seeing more wear on the inside of your tires.
     
  6. Nov 2, 2011 at 5:55 AM
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    did someone say camber?

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  7. Nov 2, 2011 at 6:00 AM
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    Mine is .6 camber on both sides after an alignment with mine set a 1.75. They still look like they have a more positive camber but I can't really argue with the numbers. I asked the shop about it (a very reputable shop) and they said they take the factory specs and adjust for the lift ( charged an extra $30) then set it within those specs.
     
  8. Nov 2, 2011 at 6:10 AM
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    Adjusting for the lift? :notsure:
     
  9. Nov 2, 2011 at 6:24 AM
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    that doesnt sound very reputable to me...charging extra bc you have a small lift...

    that will not affect how they align it
     
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    I am assuming they meant they take the factory recommended allignment ranges and adjust them for having a lift. Ideally if I have new UCA's it shouldn't matter what the range is and they could get it set to 0 on the camber but everyone I talked to said it would be hard to do that with factory UCA's. Might be a load of crap but maybe not. Might just be a way for them to make $30 extra bucks. Either way we deal with them alot and if anything goes wrong they will fix it no charge so I didn't mine paying it.
     
  11. Nov 2, 2011 at 6:33 AM
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    Your alignment won't be right after you lift if youj don't buy an aftermarket UCA to coreect the issue. Plain and simple, it can't be aligned correctly without the UCAs
     
  12. Nov 2, 2011 at 6:36 AM
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    not true.

    if you are under 2.5" of lift you can get it to factory specs.
     
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    Not so true. I had 5100s set at 1.85 n effed up a set of tires because the alignment couldn't be adjusted enough. If you alter the stock suspension geometry in any way, its gonna have an effect on something and more than likely its gonna be a negative effect. So anything over like a 1/2" of lift is gonna need an aftermarket UCA to correct the geometry
     
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    x2. I have no trouble getting my alignment within spec with a small lift. No aftermarket UCA's required.

    Also, to the guy who got suckered into paying extra because your truck is lifted, you got taken for a ride my friend. Unless you're lifted high and they have to all sorts of weird and funky stuff to make your alignment work, there's no reason to charge more. Mine was in and out in less than 30 minutes. With just a small lift, the shop does not have to do anything differently to align your truck. "Reputable shop" my ass, they sound like a bunch of crooks. :cool:
     
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    Where did you get it aligned? You can run a full 3" of lift without aftermarket UCA's. The caster will be hard to adjust but you can still get the toe and camber in spec. It all depends on the shop that aligns it. The main reason behind running an aftermarket UCA on 3" is the caster and ball joint life. You start flexing a lot and you'll wear that stock joint out, particularly the boot.
     
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    Couldn't agree more. It took them longer to do the inspection on my truck than it did to align it although I'm only at 2.5"
     
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    LMR as usual. The camber wasn't right and the caster wasn't either. Toe was fine. It was on my 08. Only thing off on my 11 was the toe. Caster camber numbers were great
     
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    LMR? That's where I go and have never had an issue.
     
  19. Nov 2, 2011 at 6:56 AM
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    It wasn't anything they did or didn't do. They tried to fix it and couldn't????
     
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    Maybe the guy wasn't sure how to do it right? No clue. They do seem to change people a lot.
     
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