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5100s + tsb + aal ?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by ELKAHOLIC, Mar 30, 2009.

  1. Mar 30, 2009 at 8:24 AM
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    OK I plan on getting 5100s on all 4 corners I all ready have tsb on rear I was planning to set them at 1.75. Then I started to think. What if I get the toytech tac-al-tsb 1.5" aal also would I then set the fronts at 2.25 ? and re allign front end is this all I need? Or do I need diff drop,coils, etc. ? I like a little rake. I like a smooth ride. Will this make the ride stiffer? Or should I stick to my original plan? The extra hight would be nice but I dont want to sacrafice ride or the extra cost of diff drop coils etc. 08 access 4x4.
     
  2. Mar 30, 2009 at 8:42 AM
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    As I understand it you don't set the rear 5100s, so wherever you sit right now in the back would be it and you'd have to set your fronts according to that to get the rake you want. If you put a AAL in the back, you would have a higher rear end and could then set the fronts to the rake you want.
    You'll prolly net an overall better ride- the 5100s are a better shock then anything stock- so it should feel pretty good.
    The diff drop is only about 30 bucks...and you can get the whole rig aligned and then see if you have vibration issues or not and decide if you need to do anything else.
     
  3. Mar 30, 2009 at 2:09 PM
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    The rear 5100 bilsteins are not adjustable and have nothing to do with lifting the rear.

    If you want additional lift in the rear, you'll have to get an AAL or another set of leaf springs.

    If you get the AAL, you can then set the FRONT 5100's to whatever lift you want to match the rear accordingly.
     
  4. Mar 30, 2009 at 2:25 PM
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    that's what I ment. I know only the front 5100s are adjustable. I have rear tsb that has lifted the rear if I get the aal it will lift it more then set the fronts at 2.5 how would the truck set I think it will have a slight rake witch I like. Questions 1 how much rake? 2 do I need any thing else except re allign front end? 3 will the aal make ride stiff? 4 is this a good Lift or should I skip the aal and just set the fronts at 1.75? sorry for the confusion.:D
     
  5. Mar 30, 2009 at 3:07 PM
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    Here is your answer: F: 5100's @ 2.5", R: TSB + AAL matched with 5125's. Slight rake, should be leveled once the rear sets...
    [​IMG]
     
  6. Mar 31, 2009 at 6:21 AM
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    Awesome thanks ,and thats all you did? Nothing else extra? how is the ride? what aal did you get?
     
  7. Mar 31, 2009 at 8:02 AM
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    Or... save yourself some money and just get the TSB.

    The TSB will settle and you don't need anything to level out the front.

    Here's my truck with the TSB springs and nothing else done to it.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Mar 31, 2009 at 8:55 AM
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    Billies in front at .85 would be perfect!;) :)
     
  9. Mar 31, 2009 at 9:04 AM
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    yea but, I want the extra hight for the deer lease and pastere driving. Plus I think I'm having a slight mid-life crisus, and this damn tacoma world is addictive.:D My wife is starting to hate it.
     
  10. Mar 31, 2009 at 9:18 AM
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    Here's the way I'm going....My truck came stock with a 4 leaf pack so basically its TSB and it sits with about an inch of rake.I just ordered Billies for the front which I'm going to install at 2.5.In the rear I'm adding 1.5 Toytec blocks so when complete,the truck will be raised 2.5 overall front and rear with a slight rake like roxspin's.....I love the way that truck looks.:)
     
  11. Mar 31, 2009 at 12:06 PM
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    I wouldn't waste the money to get Billy's just for leveling purposes.

    The rake I have is barely even noticable. I like the rake it has. It's a TRUCK.

    Money's gotta go elsewhere, ya know?
     
  12. Mar 31, 2009 at 12:45 PM
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    Been there..done that...bought the T-shirt.
    Now it's my turn to spend wildly.;)
    Helps with my OCD!:D
    Hell,I'm thinking about dumping my 65 series 1500 mile Silent Armors for a 70 series tire,maybe Michelin LTX A/T 2's.
     
  13. Mar 31, 2009 at 1:46 PM
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    Yup, thats complete... Rear AAL is from Toytech, which was designed for the TSB 4 leaf pack. Truck rides great. Only reason I will change is if I go to a 4.5 or 6" lift. But thats a whole different ball game.

    I would not say that the 5100's are just for leveling purpose.

    1) Yes, they level conveniently
    2) Allow for larger tires
    3) Ride quality beats spacer lift
    4) Stock TRD shocks do not compare in any way to the 5100's

    And lastly, you cant go wrong with the prices Sonny @ DSM is offering for these shocks. :D
     
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    I never said they were just for leveling.

    What I meant was, I personally wouldn't spend the money on them just to level out my truck.

    If I was gonna buy them, they'd be cranked up as high as they'd go. :D
     
  15. Mar 31, 2009 at 3:18 PM
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    Ah I hear yah... Yeah I went w/em cranked up and I still want more. But for now I will deal with it rather then compromise the plush ride i've achieved.

    Damn Mod bug is hard to shake, LOL...
     
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    Looks good I think I may go the same way are the 5125s more $ and how much?
     
  17. Mar 31, 2009 at 3:29 PM
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    You will be fine with the 5100's in the rear. I just felt the larger shock body of the 5125's and the Grade 8 eyelit to stem adapter looked sweet. Only diff in performance would probably be the 5125's not heating up as fast as the 5100's.
     
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    Yeah, I just got hosed. I put the AAL and front spacers on my truck only to discover that my rear is 1/2" lower than the front. Now what???
     
  19. Mar 31, 2009 at 4:35 PM
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    What spacers you running?

    I had the Ready lift spacers up front prior to the 5100's, and even after the TSB it looked like this:
    [​IMG]
     
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    They are the 2.5" from Fat Bob's. Same for the AAL's. Ended up being 1/2" too low in the rear. It is still stock TRD Bilsteins.
     
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