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5100's with 884 Coils

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by ATHiker, Jul 6, 2013.

  1. Jul 6, 2013 at 8:24 AM
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    I have a 2013 DCSB TRD Sport 4x4 and am adding 5100's and AAL. My plan is to set the front 5100's at the 1.75 setting. If I go with the 884 coils and set the 5100's at 0,with this give the same lift as the 5100's set at 1.75 with the stock coils? Will I notice a significant ride improvement by going with the 884's with the 5100's set at 0?
     
  2. Jul 6, 2013 at 2:41 PM
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    885 are the recommended coils for a double cab. I got about 2.5" of lift from them with the OME shocks. Not sure what the 5100s will net you. You should see a decent ride improvement using the OME coils because you won't be pre-loading the spring.
     
  3. Jul 6, 2013 at 5:32 PM
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    Thanks for the reply. I think I want to keep the lift 2" or less.
     
  4. Jul 6, 2013 at 5:34 PM
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    I'm running 5100s and 885s and am at almost 3"...but I have a PreRunner so you'll be at 2.5" ish
     
  5. Jul 6, 2013 at 6:49 PM
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    Sounds like the 884's will give me about the same lift as the 5100's set at 1.75" with stock coils.
     
  6. Jul 6, 2013 at 6:51 PM
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    Maybe a little more based on what i have seen others get. Should be around 2"
     
  7. Jul 6, 2013 at 6:54 PM
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    I have a 12' Prerunner and 5100s and 884 coils gave me 2". You have a 4x4 so you should be a little lower, 1.75-2". 884s will give you a better ride than 5100s at 1.75 because you're not pre-loading the coils.
     
  8. Jul 7, 2013 at 9:44 AM
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    One more question. Should I go with the OME 884's or Elbach coils. I think the 884"s will give me just a little more lift. Otherwise, would there be any difference in ride / performance?
     
  9. Jul 7, 2013 at 9:57 AM
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    From what i've read, the Eibachs will be stiffer. Especially over the 884s.
     
  10. Jul 7, 2013 at 10:01 AM
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    884's spring rate is 590 and Eibach's spring rate is 620. Higher the number, stiffer it is.
     
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    I wouldn't over-think this. Either eibachs or 884s will work fine and provide you roughly 2" of lift. I love how folks are predicting how much lift you'll get within 1/4" :rolleyes: It's not that exact of a science and depends on how much optional equipment plus add-on-junk is in your truck, not to mention how worn your original shocks and springs were before you made the swap.

    Anyhow, as far as the ride goes: "Better" is a personal thing. The stiffer springs will provide a more "firm" or "connected" ride. They will definitely ride better over harsh large bumps that caused the original suspension to bottom out and hit the bumpstops. But over ordinary expansion joints on the freeway, the softer factory springs will probably feel milder.
     
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    I have read where OEM coils are not recommended for use with the 5100's, but as I understand it, many are using them. That is why I am also considering the Elbachs. I already have the 5100's.
     
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    Can I just calculate the percent difference between 590 and 620 and say that the Elbach's are 5% stiffer?
     
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    As Steve said, every truck is different when it comes to exact lift measurements. Stiffness IS a personal thing. I know some guys who prefer stiffer rides because it's a "truck" and I know some guys who prefer softer rides because they're use to driving "luxury" cars.

    Is 5% THAT much of a difference to you? Only you can determine that. In the end, you can't go wrong with either ones. Both options are better than spacers and blocks. :)
     
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    Thanks for all the replys
     
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    I also have a 2013 DC SB sport 4x4. I went with the 884 springs and 5100's and got right at 2" of lift in the front. I did use the toytec 1/4" spacer on the driver side as well. Ride doesn't really feel any different to me vs. stock ride. I am very happy with the look. I also just moved up to 265/70/17 terra grapplers and have a tiny bit of rubbing on the mud guard. There is a little bump area inside the wheel well where the guard attaches and that is where it is rubbing. Am going to hit it with a heat gun and try to flatten it out and that should solve the issue.
     
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    Parboy,
    What setting did you have the 5100's set to? Did you do anything to your rear end?:rolleyes:
     
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    5100's are set at zero, just using the 884's to get the lift in front. I just used 5100's in the rear as well, straight swap out of the stock shocks. Just wanted to level the truck out. I don't have any updated pics in my profile, but will add some soon to show the new look.
     
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    thanks, this sounds like what I want to do.
     
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    Sorry to jack but , Is it possible to get more lift from a Bilstein 5100/ OME 885 combo ? Does it have to be at 0? I am looking for 3" up front ? I have a 2011 DC 4x4.
    I also wouldn't mind using Eibach springs if I can get more lift with the Bilstein/Eibach combo.
     
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