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55watt HID off road lights

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by colinb17, May 31, 2010.

  1. Jun 1, 2010 at 2:06 PM
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    Actually, the word really is "efficient", as in "performing or functioning in the best possible manner with the least waste of time and effort" because they waste less energy by generating less waste heat.

    They're also more efficacious because your desired result is light output, and they produce more of it. ;)
     
  2. Jun 1, 2010 at 2:25 PM
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  3. Jun 2, 2010 at 8:01 AM
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    just another fyi for anyone waiting on kits backordered from DDM. I called again just to check, and they have indeed recieved the huge shipment of HID bulbs (guy on the phone said that they usually have ballasts, but it's the bulbs they run out of) and that they are now filling all of the backorders as well as new orders. :)
     
  4. Jun 2, 2010 at 8:20 AM
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    H3 HID bulbs dont produce the lumen level of a real HID D2R bulb and the relfector is not optimised for an HID light source. Wat you give up is brightness and beam pattern too. Then again most people wont miss the extra light output, but integrated ballast is NOT the only advantage.
     
  5. Jun 2, 2010 at 8:35 AM
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    thanks DevL, always learning something new :)

    there is no doubt that a purpose built off road hid will be brighter and better focused than a hallogen housing with a pnp hid kit in it. I make very good use of my lights out in the middle of nowhere florida, or like in my sig with white out snow conditions after dark, but since i'm not a full on racer (and a college student with a budget), i just couldn't justify spending $150-$200 for one set of lights. plus with the positive results other members have seen with hid kits in standard housings, it will still be a huge improvement over the stock H3 hallogen.

    I do apreciate the info though.....once i don't have to worry about paying for school, who knows, i may completely redo with true hid off roads.

    -Colin
     
  6. Jun 2, 2010 at 8:39 AM
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    Yea DDM takes their sweet time getting the product to you and there customer service people have no idea what the are talking about but once you have them they are worth the wait. I got the 55w slim and put them into my hella 500 and love them... as far as getting too hot... my 35w headlights get hotter than the off road lights so dont worry about that. And the price couldnt be any better. $40 for the kit and $50 for the hella's. I have looked online at factory HID off road lights and have seen them for $1150 for just ONE light not two.... crazy!
     
  9. Jun 2, 2010 at 10:01 PM
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    I was wondering how long it would take someone to argue that point. ;)

     
  10. Jun 2, 2010 at 10:11 PM
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    Indeed, HID reflectors have a different design than the halogens, so you aren't getting as nice of a beam pattern as you would if you pay the big bucks. But the light still gets out there.

    I'd have to argue that a 55 watt H3 HID lamp (bulb) will produce just as many lumens as a 55 watt D2R HID lamp. You might have some minor differences between manufactures, and you will have larger differences in the lumens with different color temperatures (4300k, 5000k, etc), but the D2R vs. H3 shouldn't matter. The reflector that the bulb is housed in will obviously determine what the beam pattern is, and the efficiency of the housing will make a difference (that is, how much light makes it out of the reflector housing, compared to how much light is coming out of the lamp.

    (don't mind my jibber jabber....I have an illumination engineering background and can't resist)

    :)



     

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