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6 speed shenanigans. RA60F swap to RC62F

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by BillDaCat8, Jan 1, 2021.

  1. Mar 9, 2021 at 6:18 PM
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    I got a Mickey Mouse antenna ball. Does that count?
    I just got back home this afternoon from my first decent length trip with the new trans. Roughly 750 miles over three day period. Cruising at freeway speeds is so much nicer. Just quiet and mellow. Can actually hear the stereo without cranking it. I did 75-85 mph through the bulk of it. 2k-2500 rpm with a few jaunts up higher for passing. It’ll cruise happily at 90+ as well when you want to put some distance between yourself and that jagoff you just passed. It just glides along. Did some twisty mountain roads too on the way out. Lower gears there of course. The 1gr, even without getting into boost, does an admirable job of moving things along.
     
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  2. Mar 19, 2021 at 6:10 PM
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    So jealous...Wish I had the technical know how, (and money) to swap in 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th gear out of the RC into my RA's.
    I cruise at 70 mph at 2500 rpm, and notice my dad's truck (3rd gen) cruises at less than 2000 rpm at 70 mph.
    Great follow up, and thread all together!
     
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  3. Mar 19, 2021 at 7:58 PM
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    I got a Mickey Mouse antenna ball. Does that count?
    I’d still like to hear your idea here.
     
  4. Mar 19, 2021 at 8:01 PM
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    I got a Mickey Mouse antenna ball. Does that count?
    I dunno about swapping the gears from RC to the RA trans. I doubt it would be easy to do. Or even possible. Why not just do the whole transmission?
     
  5. Mar 20, 2021 at 1:34 PM
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    It would be an adapter that bolts on to where the RC62F shifter is and moves it forward to where the RA60F shifter sits. There are a number of ways to do it, some are more simple, easier, and/or cheaper than others but it would depend on clearance to the trans tunnel and whether or not you wanted to use a stock shift lever with the adapter or not. It is also possible to have adjustable throw built in with my one design idea, which some people may like.

    One option would be similar to what Toyota did for the RC on some of the Hilux models, flipped around and facing forward of course, and probably not quite as tall...

    mt_products2-2.jpg

    Jeff
     
  6. Apr 29, 2021 at 9:28 PM
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    Well, I ordered a RC62F today with 5k miles out of an '18MY. I will mate the VF4B transfer case I have colleting dust in the garage behind it. " The AWD case from the manual FJ Cruiser, if the model number is right". I'm going down this rabbit hole cause my CM hydro bearing is leaking like an '80 slasher movie has blood. :annoyed:
    I think I will keep the OEM throw out bearing set up.
    @BillDaCat8 Do you happen to know if the 3rd gen TO bearing will work on the 2nd gen pressure plate? I know you have done copious amount of research.
     
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  7. Apr 29, 2021 at 9:31 PM
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    How much did the trans set you back? Considering this swap myself.

    Will be doing a twin sticked FJ case though.
     
  8. Apr 29, 2021 at 9:33 PM
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    @Key-Rei car-part.com but i had to call the wreaking yard directly. It was $2250 with shipping and includes the shifter and the fork for the TO bearing.
     
  9. Apr 29, 2021 at 9:34 PM
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    Also I seen a few more that were a little cheaper but with more miles.
     
  10. Apr 29, 2021 at 9:54 PM
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    Wha!!? NICE!

    Oh dood! I wanna do that transfer case so bad. @BassAckwards has it going in his truck; Albeit behind the RA trans.

    You’ll be doing custom shafts at both ends. Basically 2” longer on the front and 2” shorter on the rear. I haven’t come across any OE shafts that’d go right in with this setup. If anyone would be able to help with that it’d be @Jeff Lange

    I’m pretty sure that the turd gen release stuff will work just fine. But, I don’t know absolutely positively. Try it. If it won’t fly, I can help with the Tilton setup. Mine has been flawless so far.

    Please keep us in the loop in this thread. It’d be awesome to make it sort of a one-stop shop for this swap. Kinda like @12TRDTacoma and the SC thread.
     
  11. Apr 29, 2021 at 9:57 PM
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    I got a Mickey Mouse antenna ball. Does that count?
    Mine was similarly priced @Key-Rei
     
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    My front drive shaft is out of a auto 4x4 cause I was going to do the AWD case, longer story. I just used the same front shaft for the shorter t-case from the fj auto 4x4. My truck "was" a pre-runner, so my rear shaft is custom anyway. The carrier bearing location is 1" closer to the trans. I will bet I can squeeze out an inch longer than normal length on that front shaft, hell I have been running it an inch short for 3-4 years now.
     
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    You had to notch your 62 for the transfer case rods didn't you?

    What did you do ultimately to "seal" those?
     
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    Woof.

    Probably about the only way to get one right now I imagine though.

    Most pull-a-parts don't have the 3rd gens yet as they're too new.

    Even when they do any Tacoma or 4Runner is usually nothing but a few nuts and bolts on the ground after the first three days.

    Last year I did the URD quill sleeve Stage 2 clutch kit and their heavy flywheel ao it may be some time but the steel nose/quill of the RC62 is still tempting.

    @BillDaCat8

    Do you know if I can reuse my Core Short Shifter from my RA60F to the RC62? Does the clutch and fly etc get reused or do you need 3rd gen clutch components?
     
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    I currently am running the original Tacoma transfer case. No notching required. But, my understanding is that I will need to do some clearancing when I switch to the awd case.
     
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    Your shifter will not work on the RC62F. Sell it and buy the 3rd gen version.

    I’m running 2nd gen clutch and flywheel with a Tilton hydro bearing. But, I’m fairly positive that the 3rd gen release stuff will work just fine.
     
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    I might be interested in buying your RA60F Core shifter @Key-Rei if you decide to part with it..
     
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    Is RC62F available in 2WD?
     
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    I got a Mickey Mouse antenna ball. Does that count?
    There are other versions of the RC trans including a couple that are for 2wd applications.

    They were not used in any vehicle sold new in the US though. So, difficult to find.
     
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    I'll keep that in mind, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. About a year ago I went through this thing to try and put Band-Aids on everything Toyota botched so not really planning on parting with my ra60 until it explodes and I'm hoping that isn't any time soon.

    :bananadead:

    I suspected the RC62 swap was a possibility, but I wasn't brave enough to drop that kind of coin on being a guinea pig. But if I'd have known it was entirely possible when I did my clutch and my fixes, one of which being the core shifter, I probably would have just done the RC 62 swap in the first place.

    So a little bummed this wasn't discovered for certain two years ago, but I am glad now there's more better and easier and even less expensive options than doing the t56 urd swap and having to get an atlas case to maintain four-wheel drive.
     

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