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6 speed

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by SRFIVE, Oct 18, 2008.

  1. Oct 18, 2008 at 3:54 PM
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    SRFIVE

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    Maybe a long shot...but anyone convert their first gen to 2nd gen 6 speed? Anyone know if bolt pattern would even be the same 4.0L vs. 3.4L block? Just a feeler...but boy would that be cool...
     
  2. Oct 18, 2008 at 5:01 PM
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    chris4x4

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    It would take some major addapting. Bolt pattern is nowhere near the same.
     
  3. Oct 18, 2008 at 10:33 PM
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    Fitment issues aside, judging from how unhappy a good number of the 2nd gen folks are with the 6 speed manual, why would you want to?
     
  4. Oct 18, 2008 at 11:06 PM
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    I keep hearing how unhappy all the 2nd gen guys are with the 6 speed however I have a 97 with a 5 speed along with the 07 6 speed. I will admit it is a typical Toyota manual but I would say that most of the people bitching about it are car guys who do not understand how loose the Toyota trannys feel, all I know it that the old one has 135K on it and I put in a new clutch at 110K just because I had it set in my mind that it had to need it but it had about 25% of the wear left and the tranny is strong. I drove my first Toyota manual when I was 7 and I am now 29 and most of the people fussing are used to a car! Its a awesome tranny you just have to know how to drive a stick!! And a truck!!
     
  5. Oct 19, 2008 at 6:24 AM
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    Thanks. I was hoping there was a simple kit or answer. If the bell housings aren't the same, it's probably worth it.
    I didn't know anyone was complaining about the 2nd gens (obviously).
    Just thought it would be nice to have a stick for towing and off-roading.
    Love the 6-speed in my '03 Cobra, with two overdrives, seems like I would have more control over gas mileage. ;)
     
  6. Oct 19, 2008 at 11:22 AM
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    Note that I did not say 'all the 2nd gen guys' but a 'good number' meaning more than some...there are also those who are quite happy with their manual 6 speed, as you are, and attribute unhappiness to unfamiliarity with the truck transmission as you do. I did not mean to imply that no one liked it, just that there were some who had issues. The best course of action if OP is seriously thinking of swapping would be to drive one and check it out personally.
     
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    I agree 100% glwood6! Solid advise.
     
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    but the question remains... has it been done? has anyone picked up this idea and made a kit for it? personally, i find myself wishing i had a 6th gear sometimes, esp on the freeway.

    that, and it'd be cool to tell people... you're the only person in your town with a 1st gen and a 6speed
     
  10. Oct 21, 2008 at 6:55 AM
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    It would defintely have a "cool factor", but I also learned over on ToyotaNation, that the gear ratios really don't help much...there isn't two overdrives like I assumed, but rather two third gears if you compare to a 1st gen 5 speed:

     
  11. Oct 21, 2008 at 10:01 AM
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    I love it when people think a 6speed will help with Gas Milage...
    As we have seen here after the 1.00 gear the last gear is about the same.

    A 6 speed is good for some people who drive in 2nd to 4th mostly.
    As this would give them 1 more choice.

    But for every one else it is pointell till you spend more money...
    By that I mean having it rear geared to really make a higher end OD.
    So when you hit 150 you can shift again.
     
  12. Oct 21, 2008 at 9:54 PM
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    Perhaps something that no one else has considered, the 6-speed does have a lower 1st gear ratio, so it would have a bit of an advantage off-roading. Sorry, I had to play the Devil's advocate.
     
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