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7.62 x 39 Poll

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by Dirty Harry, Nov 1, 2017.

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What platform for 7.62x39?

  1. Buy AK47

    42 vote(s)
    84.0%
  2. Build AR47

    4 vote(s)
    8.0%
  3. Buy Something different. (Ruger Ranch 30)

    4 vote(s)
    8.0%
  1. Nov 9, 2018 at 9:58 PM
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    Isn't that a contradiction of terms?
    Never been fond of 7.62x39 myself, on any platform. Not that it's a bad caliber or the platforms are bad; they were originally built as a cheaply mass produced military weapon, made to take as much abuse as the soldier could dish out and still be reliable. As a precision rifle, well...… not so much. There are quite a few calibers available in an AR platform I'd much rather have. I'd put my 300BLK against the 7.62x39 any day in accuracy, hitting power and versatility out to 300 yards. I'd even prefer 6.8SPC over the AK round.
     
  3. Nov 9, 2018 at 10:05 PM
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    If AR platform is preferred, Windham Weaponry offers a lifetime transferrable warranty on their AR platform 7.62x39.
     
  4. Nov 9, 2018 at 10:17 PM
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  5. Nov 12, 2018 at 4:05 PM
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    Yeah, but lets drop my ak and your ar in the mud, and run over them with a truck. Then see which one works
     
  6. Nov 13, 2018 at 2:22 AM
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    LOL

    This is such an idiotic statement. If we ran over your AK with a truck, I bet something like this would happen.
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    The AK is a good weapon, but the legend of its reliability is mostly myth.

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    At the end of the day, the AK was designed to be a disposable gun for disposable Soldiers, by a Soviet with a brain injury and a Nazi forced to work in Soviet small arms design after WW2. There is plenty of evidence that Hugo Schmeisser didn't really give it his all when working for the Soviets. The end result is the AK.
     
  7. Nov 13, 2018 at 11:17 AM
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    If you want an AK watch some AK Operator Union Youtube reviews first, Then get a WASR.
     
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  8. Nov 13, 2018 at 12:19 PM
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    Just for the sake of discussion:
     
  9. Nov 13, 2018 at 12:37 PM
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    To me, spending big $ on a fancy milled receiver AK doesn't make much sense. The stamped receiver version is indestructable. I built a 7.62x39 AR because I had an extra receiver and barrels are always dirt cheap. It's really just a SHTF gun, I never shoot it because it's overgassed with a can on it. For accurate 7.62x39 shooting, my SKS with the gas turned off (grenade launcher setting?) is the best. So my vote is buy an SKS and a WASR. I got both of mine in the good ol days, when they all came with bayonettes.
     
  10. Nov 13, 2018 at 3:14 PM
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    If you're a big enough fan of 7.62x39 to justify purchasing another rifle just to shoot it and budget isn't the primary motivating factor, I'd say the CMMG Mutant or CZ Bren 2 would be the pinnacle platforms to be considering. A good quality AKM can be a lot of fun too, if that's what floats your boat, but make sure you know what you're getting before you buy. There are a lot of absolute garbage AKs floating around and sometimes the junk isn't as obvious as you'd think.
     
  11. Nov 13, 2018 at 3:36 PM
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    A few years ago I wasn’t a huge fan of the AK and would have agreed with most of these posts. I have learned a lot since then and now it’s one of my favorite platforms to run. The mechanics behind it make it a fun rifle to work with and the reliability is it’s foundation.

    Don’t get a cheap, low quality replica though. Even with this platform you get what you pay for and the WASR, or any other bottom of the barrel AK are exactly that.

    If I were to buy one on a budget it would be the Century Arms C39 V2. If I had a fair amount to spend on my next rifle I would take a Rifle Dynamics class and build what I wanted in 5.45. :drool:

    They are not contradicting. I agree that the original idea was to build for the masses but it’s a craftsmanship and materials quality thing if done right and therefore price. Just like any AR, just not as mainstream or easy to build.

    The round is actually fairly accurate too despite contrary belief. If you get your hands on one that hasn’t been ran down and is built right they will hit some decent distance with the right user.

    Every round you listed as preference costs a substantial amount more per round.
     
  12. Nov 13, 2018 at 4:10 PM
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    I've seen dozens of videos comparing and contrasting the two calibers, and I still prefer the Blackout. I load my own ammo, so cost and availability of factory loads is something I don't even consider. The 300BLK has many more bullet weights and configurations available then 7.62x39, so it has a versatility for purpose that the AK can't come close to; the bullets available for the 7.62x39 don't have BC's as good as most of the .30 cal bullets the BLK can use. It outstrips the 5.56 ballistics with the 110 grain bullets past 400 yards, and is at least an equal of the 7.62x39 at that range with equal weight bullets. It is an outstanding subsonic round with 220 grain bullets, which won't even chamber in a standard AK rifle. 300BLK brass is stupid easy to make, and you can buy it cheaply by the dumptruck load if you want. Even though it will shoot to 400 yards accurately, I don't consider either the 300BLK or the 7.62x39 to be designed for that range; they are mid-range rifles, and as combat weapons, neither would be expected to be used past 250-300 yards tops. You buy a rifle/caliber to perform for a specific purpose. If I wanted something for 350+ yards, I'd go with something else, like a .308 or 6.5 mm round.

    Up close and personal, either one is good. I used to do a fair amount of CQB matches, and my Blackout M4 was on par with the guys who used AK's; it then becomes a matter of the shooter rather than the gun. On the bench, I never saw an AK that was as good as my rifle at making tight, consistent groups past 250 yards, which is about where mine start opening up. I can still consistently ring the 12x18" steel targets at 300 yards at our club range, using a 1x red-dot sight.
     
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    I haven't needed to buy 7.62x39 since 2008. I was ordering a case per pay period leading up to the election at $99 a pop. Strange the price hasn't recovered 10 years later.
    I've got rifles intended to fire '39 and tons of magazines. The Blackout round never appealed to me because I still see it as a niche round that I personally have no use for. Not to mention I've been training consistently with AKs for over a quarter century. I have an AR, but it isn't my preferred platform.
     
  14. Nov 13, 2018 at 6:45 PM
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    I've owned Norincos and WASRs. My current go to is an SBR'd Draco pistol. The WASRs may not be fancy, but I never had any functional issues with any of them. I can't say the same for the Sig 556R as I mentioned previously in this thread.

    So, TL,DR: some cheap guns can prove to be a great value and some expensive guns aren't worth the cardboard box they are shipped in.
     
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    Not sure why you're quoting me because I didn't say anything to the contrary or even mention price or features, just advised that the OP educate himself on what to look for in a quality example because there are a lot of shitty AK variants on the market that people continue to buy because of the assumption that all AKs are pretty much the same and that the mythical AK reliability is universal to anything that looks like one.
     
  16. Nov 14, 2018 at 7:31 AM
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    I was agreeing with you. :thumbsup:
     
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  17. Nov 20, 2018 at 5:06 PM
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    Love my AKs but SKS is a good option also. So is CZ 527 if you want a bolt gun.
     
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  18. Nov 21, 2018 at 9:19 AM
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    I like sks and ak, there are a few better than others. Id take a Norinco Ak anyday. prob the worst one is the Egyptian Maadi ak. Russian ak and sks are still by far the best.
     

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