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883s or wait for Eibachs on 2nd gen DCSB

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by fireroad, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. Mar 31, 2013 at 8:46 AM
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    OME 883 coils, Wheelers HD replacement leaf-pack, Bilstein 5100.
    I did not use any shims on the rear axle or a CB drop.
     
  2. Mar 31, 2013 at 8:55 AM
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    I would wait for the eibach
    I run eibachs at .85, the ride is amazing. It is much plusher than my trdOR coils. It is stiff enough to handle large bumps but plush enough to have a great ride. From what I understand the 883 are really designed for nitrocharger shocks and the eibachs are designed for 5100s.
     
  3. Mar 31, 2013 at 12:59 PM
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    You can always add the shims and the overload later on. If you think you're going to use shims, make sure you get the centering pin extension collar.

    I left the overload in place because the HD version wasn't available yet. I've had the truck loaded down really well and only been sitting on the overload once (I had about 1,000 lbs in the bed plus the shell so I was defintely overloaded). With the HD version, unless you want the extra 1/2" of lift, I'm not sure if you'd realistically need the overload for anything within the normal limits of the truck unless you tow heavy and often.

    I am not running shims or the CB drop. I had no vibrations when the lift was installed but have developed them around a year later. I believe my issue is my CB is starting to go out on me so I don't think the CB drop or shims will solve my issues.
     
  4. Apr 1, 2013 at 10:49 AM
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    @MountainBikeKid - Don't forget to post pics when you get a chance:D
     
  5. Apr 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM
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    Will do. Tires and alignment tomorrow. Then pictures.
     
  6. Apr 2, 2013 at 5:57 PM
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    Shouldn't have hesitated to order my Wheeler's HD 3 leaf AAL. They had several in stock last week but sold out by before I called yesterday. They are hoping for more in 2 weeks or less, depending on if Alcan comes through or not. There goes my install next week :(. More time to sell off crap I don't need to finance this new obsession:D
     
  7. Apr 7, 2013 at 4:31 PM
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    Anxiously awaiting your pics ;)
     
  8. Apr 7, 2013 at 8:01 PM
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    Sorry it took me so long. I kept meaning to do it and everytime I thought about it my camera battery was not charged. I really like the ride of the new 883 springs with the Wheelers HD leaf pack. It did give me a lot more rake than I was expecting. But I still like the way it looks and when I load it down to go camping and such it will not sag. I also put new 265/75R16 Bfg allterrains on it as well.
     
  9. Apr 7, 2013 at 9:05 PM
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    No worries, the pics were worth the wait! You truck looks fantastic man, good call on the setup :thumbsup:. I personally think it has the right amount of rake, and it will probably still settle a hair or two after a month of driving around. If it doesn't I did talk to Wheeler's and they said the OL isn't necessary with their HD AAL...that is, it does not add any weight capacity, it just provides you another 1/2 in of lift. When mine comes in a week or so I will install without the OL and see how it settles out. I have little rake as is (1 in diff) because of my campershell.

    How are you liking your BFG ATs? That's my tire of choice as well but I was a little worried that it may be too stiff and/or heavy for a Taco since they only offer it in load range E.
     
  10. Apr 8, 2013 at 3:47 AM
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    MountainBikeKid, your truck looks perfect. I plan to do the same to mine. Thanks for the pics.
     
  11. Apr 8, 2013 at 6:29 AM
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    OME 883 coils, Wheelers HD replacement leaf-pack, Bilstein 5100.
    I just wanted to clarify one thing. I have a Wheelers HD leaf pack. It is the complete pack that has five leafs in it. So I don't know how the HD AAL compares to it. It is a nice leaf pack though.

    The tires are nice. I was worried about the load range E as well. They are certainly heavier that the stock tires but the truck still rides nice with them. I would recommend them to you.

    Thank you!
     
  12. Apr 8, 2013 at 7:52 AM
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    Truck looks awesome! :thumbsup:

    You got 2" of lift in the back. Did you have OEM 3 leaf pack before? I'm considering Wheelers 5 leaf HD pack, but I do not want to lift the truck. I have TSB pack now, so if thats the case, looks like I should expect about 1" of lift in my case before it settles a bit? I have to measure soon so I can compare your numbers to mine.

    I'm also planning to get 4 5100's. Plan is to leave fronts set @ 0 with stock coils, but looks like I may have to consider setting them up to 0.85 to lower the rake a bit if I get another inch of lift at the back with these HD springs...
     
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  13. Apr 8, 2013 at 9:40 AM
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    Thanks for the clarification, I completely missed that you got a whole new pack. I've been eyeing the Wheeler's HD 5 leaf pack as well, but couldn't justify replacing the whole factory pack with only 11k miles on it...yet! Will be interested to here your long term review of them, I suspect I'll be getting mine in another year or so.

    I asked Wheeler's the same question as I have the 2/1 (non-tsb) leaf pack. They said on a DCSB expect at least an inch over what your factory non-tsb ones were when new. Mine started out at 22 in (now 21) before I put on a campershell, so I expect around 23 when it's all settled and done.

    This thread may help you decide, even though it's for the 3 leaf AAL http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/suspension/241923-wheelers-1-75-lift-kit-installed.html
     
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  14. Apr 8, 2013 at 10:09 AM
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    Thanks for the link.

    So if your non TSB were new at 22, would you not expect 23 instead of 25?

    So based on that, and based on the fact the a new TSB 4 leaf pack is about 1" higher than new non TSB 3 leaf pack, this Wheelers 5 leaf HD pack would be "direct" replacement (except heavier duty hopefully) for new TSB 4 leaf springs?

    Hope I understand it correctly. Pretty much a solid option for someone who wants to replace their old TSB leafs or for someone who is out of warranty and does not qualify for TSB springs.
     
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  15. Apr 8, 2013 at 1:07 PM
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    Sorry, "Monday math":(...I did mean 23 and not 25. Based on discussions with Dan I would consider the Wheeler's 5 leaf HD pack a heavy-duty "direct replacement" for the TSB pack (that may or may not add up to a half inch more then a brand new TSB pack). I agree that it's a solid option for anyone wanting to replace a stock or TSB pack that plans to tow, haul, or has a campershell and wants better stability and load handling characteristics. I will be purchasing one in the future for sure:D
     
  16. Apr 10, 2013 at 3:53 PM
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    Looks like my Wheeler's HD progressive AAL is shipping tomorrow so I went ahead and ordered the rest of my lift. 883's and OME shocks for all four corners should be here next week!
     
  17. Apr 16, 2013 at 5:40 PM
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    I installed 883s in January to compensate for extreme rake induced by OME Dakars that replaced the awful shit Toyota calls springs.
    I had installed 5100s set at 0 a year earlier.
    The OME Dakars raised the rear to over 25" and the vibes and lift were just too much.
    I just removed the third leaf from the Dakars and now sit level.
    The 883s ride great with 5100s....I don't know why people say they aren't a good combo.
    OME should offer the reduced leaf pack as an option.
    This is the suspension Toyota should have installed to begin with.
     
  18. Apr 16, 2013 at 6:33 PM
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    You sit level with the third leaf removed and 883's up front? What are your measurements and do you have a long box/armour/heavy bumper etc?
     
  19. Apr 17, 2013 at 7:03 AM
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    Pics please!

    My 883's showed up yesterday and my wheelers HD progressive AAl should be here tonight! Now, if only I didn't have to work the next two weekends :(
     
  20. Apr 17, 2013 at 8:42 AM
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    I don't have a tape measure with me right now, but will take a couple of pics and upload.
    Yes, level with 883's and third leaf removed....DCSB with a shell on back, no other weight adjustments(bumper, winch, grenade decal in the rear window, Glock decal, chrome license plate frame declaring something).
     
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