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A/C on with defrost

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by slthomps, Apr 25, 2018.

  1. Apr 25, 2018 at 6:34 AM
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    slthomps

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    5th Tacoma this one is a 2017. I have modified all the previous ones so the A\C compressor does not come on when in Defrost mode and I could press the A\C button if needed. In other words, I do not want the A\C compressor to come on automatically when in Defrost mode.

    How do I make this change?
     
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  2. Apr 25, 2018 at 6:54 AM
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    Ok. What are you asking? Or are you just making a statement?
     
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  3. Apr 25, 2018 at 6:57 AM
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    ...that's the whole point though? Fogged windows are the result of too much humidity. The A/C compressor dehumidifies. Without it, all you're doing is heating the windows such that water in the air won't condense to them. With the A/C compressor you're removing humidity as well, solving the root cause of the problem.
     
  4. Apr 25, 2018 at 7:03 AM
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    95% of the time the A\C compressor does not need to be on for Defrost to work. Having the A\C compressor on when it is not needed affects the mpg. This is a simple modification to get better mpg.
     
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    That annoys me too. Not so much that it could affect MPG but that you can’t override it.
     
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    Not if you are using defrost to help with snow and ice. Even with the temp setting on hot, the AC compressor will still be on in defrost mode on a lot of cars.
     
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    I own a 2017 Tacoma. The air conditioner automatically comes on when I turn on the defroster. I do not like this.
    I've owned 4 other Tacomas and was able to alter or override the A/C during defroster setting.
    Is it possible to alter this in my 2017 model?
    Thank you.
     
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  8. Apr 25, 2018 at 7:25 AM
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    +1 I'd like to have full control. Our previous cars let us do that. During the winter, I need a bit more airflow but not a/c to keep my windshield happy.

    It is also a bit crazy that if you go full left on the temp control by accident, both A/C and recirc will turn on. Then, I'm poking at buttons to turn it all off.
     
  9. Apr 25, 2018 at 7:26 AM
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    It's what it is designed to do. Most all vehicles do it. It is necessary! I seriously doubt you can see significant MPG changes by ocassionally using the defroster.

    What js312 said.

    G.
     
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    It's still beneficial, that's why it's designed that way. Humans exhale very humid air, so you'll cause the humidity in a small space like a truck cab to rise rapidly. In turn, that'll cause condensation on the windows. The A/C compressor helps to prevent that.
     
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    OK. Everyone look at my first post. I asked how to fix this. I am not interested in anyone's opinion. If you don't know how to fix this, please don't post anything.
     
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    edit - I see the edit you made now.
     
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    That was rude.

























































































































    I'm almost positive I turned mine off with carista or somewhere in the vehicle settings from the head unit.
    Otherwise dealer would be able to with tech stream. Dunno where I did it for mine but remember it was one of the first things I did when I got it.
     
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    I understand that. I just don't want the A/C on everytime I want the defrost on. When I need to get the fog off my windshield then yes, A/C on is good. When I just need to keep my wipers from freezing to the windshield, then no I don't want it on. I realize it doesn't hurt anything, I'm just controlling like that :thumbsup:
     
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    I don't know about the 2017's. But I haven't owned a vehicle in YEARS that automatically turned the AC on when the defrost was on. I have 3 vehicles in the driveway now, an 07 Tacoma, an 09 Honda, and a 14 F-150. All of them require me to manually turn on the AC if I want to dehumidify. I can run the defrost without the AC, but almost never do. Personally I wish the AC would come on automatically like it did years ago.

    Either way this is a huge non-issue.

    You might see .1 or .2 difference in MPG's. You're way over thinking this.
     
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  16. Apr 25, 2018 at 10:55 AM
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    I turned mine of in settings in head unit.
     
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    Sorry, but I just wanted to check. If you enable / disable this setting, the a/c will not come on if you move the vent knob to the last three defrost settings?

    If so, High5! I will dig in an find this.
     
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    Just curious (and yes, I'm ignoring your request by posting this) how much gas does the ac really use? 1/2 a mpg? 1/4 mpg? Just seems like a lot of work for a negligible amount improvement.
     
  19. Apr 25, 2018 at 11:33 AM
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    In some enviroments I could see the AC having little effect for defrost being on or off.
    No mods other than putting it on foot vent and defrost? Crack a window and your defrosted. Boom.

    Also trying holding AC for a few seconds toggling it on/off?
     
  20. Apr 25, 2018 at 11:40 AM
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    Cracking a window does work well, but in the winter when you just want heat. . .

    That is one of the problems this automatic A/C issue. It doesn't light the A/C button. Holding it down would be difficult to tell if it turned off.
     
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