A REAL Bumper (come at me, Bro!)

Infinitely more than most bumpers, which are designed to crumple, not "spring" back. For any but minor impacts, these balls will compress to destruction, dissipating energy that would otherwise bear on the brackets; there is ample room for the bolts to recess back as the balls are sacrificed.

 

I’d love to see this tested. Or see some math.

 

Thanks, since I'm a Marine I'll take it as a compliment. Most of us don't know how to ReEd Or RiTe

What 'OEM' brackets are you referring to? You mean these?



At most, those will support whatever the ball that attaches to the bumper is rated for. And that's when using the factory bumper.

Your bumper is far from factory, and with it weighing as much as it does, you've already given up much of that capacity.

We didn't even cover it from an engineering standpoint, how do you counteract the deflection when pulling something or when you have to hit your brakes?

I bet you can hit the top of the bumper with a sledge hammer and it'll start angling downward; imagine the force of a trailer under it's own weight? This thing would crumple with it only being attached where I'm pointing -

 

They have "infinitely more" bounce back. Source = Me.

 

Is there going to be a group buy?? This is getting a lot of attention..

 

Which is an interesting distinction here. Normal bumpers dissipate mechanical energy by deforming and generating a little bit of heat. I suspect these are going to compress to a point, but then the rest of the impact will be transmitted into the frame. Whether that is better or worse than the factory design comes down to materials and geometry, which is why I think the math here would be interesting.


Infinitely is a big claim.

 

I'd like to see the bumper at least hit with a sledge from the top and backside to prove it can at least withstand that. OP could even strap a 2x4 on if he's worried about damaging it during testing.

 

Will there be one available for the 3rd gen? And can i get it in mahogany

 

The title literally says "(come at me, Bro)" and that was what you were expecting?
Here's some constructive reflection you need to take. That bumper has no business having a receiver in it. End of argument. You literally keep going back to brackets not rated for towing. Example:

YOU'RE LITERALLY EXCEEDING THE DESIGN LIMITS OF THE BRACKETS AS THEY AREN'T MADE TO TOW! Toyota load tested those brackets to hold your body weight as you climb into the bed, not haul a trailer down the road.
THIS is not going to keep your trailer attached to your truck.


Let's take a gander at an ACTUAL INSTALLED RECEIVER and see how it's attached!


That's odd, doesn't look like its attached to stamped steel brackets but actually attached to the frame. That's so weird. It's almost like Toyota knew that the frame is stronger than the bumper brackets and decided it'd be much safer to attach it there and then test its load ratings with a proper setup.

 

As previously stated, there is no intention to exceed the rated capacity of the brackets. I weighed both bumpers, and am armed with the power of subtraction. Your protests are baldly defensive, featuring predictions of imagination.

 

Your reading comprehension is really lacking; you would've been an ASVAB waiver for sure

 

Your title says it all

Your title... On the internet....

what about internet tailgaters?

 

Toyota rates these brackets for towing 3500 lbs, and 350 lb tongue weight, and came attached to the the tow bumper of this '98 SR5. I don't doubt the robustness of your tow system- but this isn't a contest: yours having a higher capacity doesn't mean these have none. Again (and again.. and again...), they are purpose-built by Toyota. It's not a class-3 hitch- nor is the rest of the vehicle built to pull class-3 loads.

 

We just want to see some SAFE testing of this infinitely more practical bumper. You show me that it works as you’ve described (with no proof of having tested other than your own claims), and I’ll retract any disbelief I had.

As far as you not “intending to exceed” the rated capacity of the brackets… are you going ask people to be careful when rear-ending you and not exceed a certain speed when doing so?

What kind of impact/compression testing have you done with the lacrosse balls to ensure their effectiveness of acting as a bumper to a several thousand pound vehicle?

How strong was the bounce-back prior to cutting them in half and removing that extra bit of travel?

Just because a tree destroys a car when you hit it doesn’t mean it’d work the other way around and make a good bumper.

 

Not really. The stock bumper just didn't feature a spring or elastomer. Most don't, anymore, save a few specialty vehicles. Here "infinite" is a digital distinction, not a quantification of capacity- so neither big nor small. Just is.

 

So in your estimation, whatever spring is added by 10 lacross balls, a chunk of wood and a stout bumper is “better” than what the Toyota engineers put together, by some measure, because it includes some sort of spring. Not sure I buy it, but I understand where you’re at.

 

I can't make sense of what you're saying here- these stock, OEM brackets bear a published rating for towing capacity, not surviving X amount of impact, and I will be taking as much care with them now as I would with any bumper. If you have been purchasing brackets bearing a tonnage and speed-of-impact rating, I'd love to see such. It may be deformation of the thinner stock bumper absorbs more energy than what I've assembled- or not. I will not be conducting (absurd) impact tests to make that determination.

I'm sure there are folks out there who would get off on such research, but I'm not interested. Beyond X more compression, they will shatter. Were I to provide a distance and pounds of compression for each ball, what would you do with that, exactly? Were you thinking to make vehicle tonnage at speed charts? With what load in my vehicle? Moving at what speed? Or is your question actually completely meaningless, other than to put lipstick on heckling? I mean, you aren't really just being a dck, right? Lets test that-

Turns out you are. Thanks for letting me know who you are.

 

Aesthetically it looks like shit.

From an engineering perspective it also looks like shit.

 

I knew I recognized the design language.