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A reasonable lift

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by MDFM31, Dec 9, 2010.

  1. Dec 9, 2010 at 2:02 PM
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    MDFM31

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    I'm looking around for a combination of things to get an inch or two of lift. I am trying to avoid the cv/pinion/alignment issues of the 3" systems. The best I can come up with is a toytec 1.5"AAL and bilstein 5100's at 1.75. I don't mind that the rear stays higher than the front, I do haul a fair amount of crap. Will the bilsteins at 1.75 cause problems with alignment that can't be remedied within the stock range of adjustment? Any thoughts? I DO NOT have the rear leaf TSB.
     
  2. Dec 9, 2010 at 2:15 PM
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    I just put in billys at 1.75, and a 1.5" toytec tsb aal ( i dont have the tsb leafs), rides great on and off road, much better than stock IMO. (my springs were pretty sagged to begin with though). Installed it myself in my driveway in like 6 hours, with no power tools. the rake is very mild ... around 1.25" higher in back.
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  3. Dec 9, 2010 at 2:18 PM
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    no issues aligning it, sry dont have a printout, but i saw the computer at 2.2 caster both sides in front (what i asked for )

    with billys u can always throw coils on later if you want to go higher too ( my plan )
     
  4. Dec 9, 2010 at 10:21 PM
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    ^^ which springs were sagging? Leaf or coil springs up front?
     
  5. Dec 13, 2010 at 8:39 AM
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    How do the bilstein 5100's ride? I really like the ride that my sport suspension gives, although my kidneys will hurt after a while
     
  6. Dec 13, 2010 at 8:41 AM
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    They are stiffer than stock because they preload the springs.
     
  7. Dec 13, 2010 at 8:56 AM
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    The 3 leaf pack is great, but the OP said he hauls stuff so that probably wouldnt be an option for him since it replaces the overload leaf.
     
  8. Dec 13, 2010 at 9:07 AM
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    ;) I hauled my honda 400ex in the bed with them and I wasnt bottoming out...but if I knew I was going to be hauling stuff regularly I wouldnt go with the 3 leaf pack
     
  9. Dec 13, 2010 at 9:13 AM
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    The setup you propose will work great for the usage you propose IMO.

    Eibachs with 5100s set to zero is a fine choice also, but the Eibachs have a higher spring rate and will be stiffer for the same ride height vs. stock springs with preload.
     
  10. Dec 13, 2010 at 4:48 PM
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    I had this set up on my '09 and I'm going to do it again with my '11. Rear TSB is not necessary but it would help if you're hauling heavy loads.
     
  11. Dec 13, 2010 at 4:53 PM
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    Sorry this might be kinda newb, but everyone is talking about the Bilsteins with stock springs preloaded, but don't they have an adjustable seat? Wouldn't this be the same as a coil over system, just with a stock spring?

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  12. Dec 13, 2010 at 5:11 PM
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    The difference is in order to adjust the 5100's, you need to disassemble them, move the spring perch, and then reassemble.

    With an adjustable coilover setup, you can ajust everything while it is still on the truck.
     
  13. Dec 13, 2010 at 10:35 PM
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    I understand how coilovers work, maybe I worded the question wrong. If the perch on a 5100 is adjustable and so is a coilover then is the coilover considered a preloaded spring also? If not then what makes the billies different that they preload the spring even if they adjust the perch the same as a coilover.

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  14. Dec 14, 2010 at 5:57 AM
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    An adjustable coilover also preloads the springs.
     
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    Hey guys, new to the site and had a couple questions re: TSB, 5100's setting, alignment and bigger tires. I am waiting on the 5100's in the mail and have an appt at dealer for the TSB on Thursday. I was planning on seeing if they would install the shocks while they are in there doing the leaf TSB and setting the front shocks at .85. Do you still recommend an alignment at that setting? Also, I'm getting 265/70/17 BFG A/T's on stock rims, does it matter if I get them before or after shocks/TSB?
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  17. Feb 1, 2011 at 7:46 PM
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    has anyone heard of vibes being caused by a 5100 1.75/1.5 AAL lift? I have seen a lot of conflicting stuff about the effectiveness of the diff drop kit and I do worry about the pinion angle of the rear diff. They do have 2 degree wedges for adjusting pinion angles but you see them mostly of drag cars. I've never seen them on a truck. Are longer brake hoses necessary too? I should probably get braided ones anyway, my brakes are far from confidence inspiring.
     
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