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A1 steak sauce, B2 filter

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Waasheem, Apr 8, 2023.

  1. Apr 8, 2023 at 4:50 PM
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    Waasheem

    Waasheem [OP] The catholic radio bear

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    Ever since I first got the Tacoma, I thought there’s room for a larger taller filter. I looked through the Baldwin filters site and found this B2 filter.

    On paper it looks like it’s going to fit so I ordered one. I also picked up a Napa 1516 just in case the Baldwin wouldn’t fit.

    Also I decided to get a fumoto drain plug valve and hose kit.

    Today I did an oil dump and fill, and installed the fumoto. Since I’m not changing the filter today and I have both Napa and Baldwin filters, I got my calipers and did some measurements.

    First I checked the gaskets. Od is the same, id the Baldwin is slightly smaller so that’s going to fit. Height, the Baldwin is about 5 5/16, Napa 4 13/16. Plenty of room for even more height. The filter od is dramatically larger, I didn’t measure the calipers. It’s looking like it’s going to fit with a small gap in the filter mount.

    I’m feeling optimistic. I’ll be doing the oil change with the filter after driving it hard a couple times to flush it out.

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  2. Apr 8, 2023 at 5:07 PM
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    Dm93

    Dm93 Test Don't Guess

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    Same as a Motocraft FL1A or Wix 51515, very popular filter on Ford back in the day. It fits most of the 80s and 90s Ford V8s as well as many Ford tractors.
    Never seen one used on a Toyota though.

    You running extended oil changes or is this just an experiment?
    I would think the YZZD3 filter is fine for the Tacoma engine and oil capacity.
     
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  3. Apr 8, 2023 at 5:13 PM
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    Charvonia Design

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    This is potentially a nice find! I think I read once about bypass springs being different. Not sure if you can check that to make sure it’s not substantially different from stock.
     
  4. Apr 8, 2023 at 5:46 PM
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    Waasheem

    Waasheem [OP] The catholic radio bear

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    I thought the Wix 51515 is the same as the Napa 1516 but there’s a difference, I think it was the holes.

    Then I see on the Napa site, the 1516 says made by Wix.

    I found the Baldwin says 8 psi. The Napa says 8-11 psi. The 90915-YZZD3 I don’t see it’s info.
     
  5. Apr 8, 2023 at 5:58 PM
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    Dm93

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    The NAPA version would be 1515, NAPA Gold filters are made by Wix and are essentially the same.
    The 1516 (51516) is smaller than the 1515 (51515)
     
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  6. Apr 23, 2023 at 6:43 PM
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    Waasheem

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    Today I finished the experimental filter and it does indeed fit. As you can see from the pictures, there’s no room to be any bigger in diameter but a taller one could fit. I didn’t need to remove the engine cover but it needed to be Tetrised in. Screwing it down I thought it was going to get caught on the lip of the filter mount. But it just barely cleared, and I felt the gasket make contact.

    With the 1515 Napa filter, it took about 5.4 quarts to fill to the upper dot on the dip stick. I added about 5.6 quarts, it’s just slightly above the upper dot. I’ll check it again after it sits overnight, I’m guessing it’ll be close.

    I did check after running the engine to be certain it didn’t get caught and isn’t leaking.


    I suspect the 1515 is the same, rebranded as the b2, made by wix.

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  7. Apr 23, 2023 at 7:05 PM
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    Doesn't look like it would work on engines with an oil cooler but interesting concept.
     
  8. Apr 23, 2023 at 7:26 PM
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    I ran the larger purolator and Napa filters for years, they fit with the oil cooler. However, it’s not worth it. The VVT-I works off of oil pressure and the only time I got code’s about oil control sensors was when running the larger oil filters. Don’t waste your time with this, just stick with the OEM mentioned above
     
  9. Apr 24, 2023 at 10:49 AM
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    The same shit everyone else has.
    What’s wrong with the factory Toyota filter?
     
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    I also wanted an oversized filter but went with the Mobil 1 M1-209/209A
     
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    But why? Plenty of people are running OEM filters and pushing their trucks hard.
     
  13. Apr 24, 2023 at 3:13 PM
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    Installed a Pop n Lock,,That's it !..Bone stock
    Yup
     
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    Note a bigger canister doesn't mean greater filter element area inside. The filter element could be only half the height of the canister, for example.
     
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    The correct Baldwin for this engine is the B7020, or Hastings LF589. Both are the same filters. The bypass is correct for those filters. They're also slightly larger than OEM. I ran the LF589 when I had my second gens.
     
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    Welp, not the responses I expected.

    I’ve used Baldwin filters for many years. More often during the supply chain issues recently. I’ve seen filters leak, I think because the gasket surface area isn’t true. Never with a Baldwin. I’ve even seen them in service 10 years on a customer vehicle, which is never a good idea.

    My reason for going with a bigger can was to increase capacity a little. Also the theory being a larger filter will have more filtering media.

    I never have a problem admitting when I make a mistake. To all the nay sayers, you can all say I told you so when my engine blows up, and I’ll go stand in the corner.
     
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    I'm not saying it won't work. It just seems like you're trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
     
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    I use Napa platinum oil filters on my rav4
    When my taco is ready I will use platinum also
    The part # is 41348
     
  19. Apr 25, 2023 at 4:59 AM
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    I ran 95 Ford Taurus V6 filters for years on my 3.4L and a few times on my 4.0L. Went back to Toyota filters. They work well and cheap.
     
  20. Apr 25, 2023 at 6:15 AM
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    You won't have to admit anything - this forum is full of "nay sayers"! Like lemmings who rally around the Toyota logo flagpole, or the opinions of self appointed "experts" who cite their anecdotal experiences as "fact".
    If it doesn't leak, it will give you a marginal increase in capacity. Baldwin makes a quality filter, so filter media quality and the mfg process is not an issue. The difference between the pressure relief valve specs in a full flow filter, is nominal. Baldwin = 8psi, Toyota = est 10-14psi (spec not listed by Toyota) Pressure affecting the VVT is also a non issue - 50 psi in a Baldwin and 50 psi in a 90915-YZZD3 is still 50psi. Both have anti-drainback valves. If it fits, it will filter.
     

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