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A44D & A43D Trannys compatible?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by montissyoty, Oct 18, 2018.

  1. Oct 18, 2018 at 11:31 PM
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    I have a tacoma A44D transmission that just went out. I found a A43D transmision at a junkyard with 80,000 miles. Are the A44D and A43D compatible even though the A44D is electronically controlled and A43D is controlled by throttle position and a governor??
     
  2. Oct 19, 2018 at 7:56 AM
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    might want to edit your title, you have the same trans listed.

    as far as compatible, for starters no. but someone may have been able to transfer parts from one to the other for the electronically controlled model.
     
  3. Oct 19, 2018 at 10:31 AM
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    whoops haha
     
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    All the electrical connectors in the same place and it looks like it will slide right in but i want to make sure before i drop a G
     
  5. Nov 14, 2018 at 9:36 PM
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    @frizzman are u saying that a43 could go in place of an a44 but an a44 couldn't go in a43 model? because the electronically controlled part is probably built in to the vehicle separate the transmission? i have a 2001 and the donor is a 99... can't find any other trannys other than the 43. any help is much appreciated, thanks
     
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  7. Nov 15, 2018 at 8:15 AM
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    actually the opposite. They may have the same "housing" but the electronically controlled parts may need to be transferred over to replace the "governed" parts.

    I am no expert so this is just speculation :notsure:

    @gearcruncher any thoughts?



    A43D[edit]
    Four speed automatic without lockup torque converter.

    This transmission model is not electronically controlled. It is instead controlled by throttle position and also by a governor.

    Manufacturer designation: Aisin Warner 03-71

    Applications (calendar years):

    • 1981 Toyota Celica Supra
    • 1982-1985 Toyota Celica XX 2000G/S turbo
    • 1982-1985 Volvo 240 2.1L Turbo I4 (AW71)
    • 1985-1991 Volvo 740 2.3L Turbo I4 (AW71)
    • 1985-1990 Volvo 760 2.3L Turbo I4 (AW71)
    • 1985-1990 Volvo 760 2.8L V6 (AW71)
    • 1988-1991 Volvo 780 2.3L Turbo I4 (AW71)
    • 1987-1990 Volvo 780 2.8L V6 (AW71)
    • 1991 Volvo 960 2.8L V6 (AW71 - Australia only)
    • 1991-1995 Volvo 940 2.3L Turbo I4 (AW71)
    • 1981 Toyota Pickup 2WD 2.4L I4 22R (California emissions only, Federal emissions used A43)
    • 1982-1995 Toyota Pickup 2WD 2.4L I4 22R/RE
    • 1982-1995 Toyota Cab/Chassis 2.4L I4 22R/RE (flatbed, cube, motorhome)
    • 1995-2000 Toyota Tacoma 2WD 2.4L I4 2RZ
    • 1982 Toyota Crown Royal 2.8L I6 5MG

    A44D[edit]
    Four speed automatic without lockup torque converter.

    This transmission is electronically controlled by an electronic shift control module. Mechanically similar to the A43D.

    Applications (calendar years):

    • 1989-1991 4Runner
    • 2001-2004 Toyota Tacoma 2WD 2.4L I4 2RZ
     
  8. Nov 15, 2018 at 10:12 AM
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    I am no pro at what year fits as I always repaired the original transmission .
    Your best bet is calling your local auto wrecker . They know what years will work and what wont work .
    With this being said , I doubt you can swap from a cable operated transmission and go electronic . It just doesnt work that way
    I did build a thread for this .
    Check in there
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/transmission-swap-write-up-s.384303/
     
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    ok, would swapping out the governor with the electronic parts be possible?
     
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    These guys have a converter . Type your trans model into their search bar and see if its compatible .
    https://www.roadkillcustoms.com/transmission-cross-reference/?Transmission=03-72LE+(A44DE)

    Did you try calling the wrecking yards ?

    Going from electronic to manual means valve body swaps as well as the output shaft . I highly doubt what you want to do is possible

    Why not fix the trans in your truck . A rebuild kit is $250 and a converter is $150 . You may need some valve body components

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...sions-write-up-your-4-speed-automatic.325531/
     
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    I don't know about transmissions, but transfer cases are 100$ from Junkyards and I just got one of Ebay for 90$... Might wanna take a look...
     
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    I've been to all the wrecking yards in my area
     
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    does anyone know if i can buy a new or rebuilt A44D anywhere online?
     
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    Did you ask them what years will fit in your truck ?
    Did you ask them if you can take the valve body off your transmission and install it on the second hand transmission ?
    Did you request they do a transmission search on the national hotline ?
     

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