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AAL progressive or standard?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Squirrel cage, Dec 3, 2012.

  1. Dec 3, 2012 at 9:02 AM
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    I am getting ready to lift my truck, but wanted some opinions on which AAL to get. I'm looking at the Wheelers 1.5" kits. My truck is a dd with some moderate off roading. Mostly trail riding and exploring. No rocks. I am also looking to build a bed rack, and add a RTT for some over landing fun. So, which one do you guys think is the better option?
     
  2. Dec 3, 2012 at 9:06 AM
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    For all the added weight you'll be carrying while off roading, I wouldn't go with an AAL at all. I'd save up for a replacement leaf pack. With the base Tacoma leaf pack being as soft as it is, even with the addition of the AAL, you'll crap out the leaf pack fairly quickly with that kind of load in my opinion.

    But, to answer your question, between the 2, I'd go progressive. I believe Wheelers now sells an HD version of their progressive AAL. They ride nice and seem to handle weight pretty well (I have the Icon 3-leaf progressive with the overload leaf left in place).
     
  3. Dec 3, 2012 at 9:14 AM
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    3 leaf progressive AAL will last maybe 1-2 years tops depending on load and offroading.
     
  4. Dec 3, 2012 at 9:14 AM
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    Icon or Wheelers Progressive with OL left in (like Pugga said^)

    Replacement pack if you can swing it (like Pugga said^)

    Just reiterating and agreeing :thumbsup:
     
  5. Dec 3, 2012 at 9:22 AM
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    I also switched from a single Alcan AAl to the wheeler's progressive 3 pack and it made a world of difference. Much smoother and stable ride, rear does not hop like it used to(but i did upgrade to rear icon vs2 shocks). My truck is also a daily driver and only do light off roading. I still carry heavy loads i.e: yards of dirt, gravel, paver stones etc... and it seems to hold loads just as well as my single AAL. I also kept the overload spring in like Pugga did and all is well. The factory tacoma springs aren't the best but check how many leaves you have in the stockers 3 or 4. If you have 4 I believe that is the upgraded rear leafs or "TSB" leafs.
     
  6. Dec 3, 2012 at 9:26 AM
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    Thanks for the info guys. I don't intend on having a bunch of weight for extended periods of time, so hopefully the stock leaves will last for a while.
    4wheelin4banger I've been meaning to post in those threads. Thanks for putting them all in one spot for me! Btw idk if we actually met, but we have been on a run together. There were about 32 rigs that all had to make a u-turn out by Pyramid city. I was in my blue Jeep YJ however.
     
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    Yes I was on that run on New Years day Sam, but we didn't meet. I was in the group of 4 Toyotas.
     
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    I swapped to the factory TSB and got the Icon 3 leaf progressive with overload removed. After a year its still a lil firm unloaded and is starting to lean on the driver's side. The passenger side has not settled much or worn out and I wheel the shit out of my truck but do no towing. At 2 years I will rebuild and swap packs from left to right to get another year out of em and add rhe overload if they settled too much or I might just buy a pack and use the Icon and TSB as a backup when my next pack needs a rearch... because even a new pack will need a re-arch eventually.
     
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    What does it cost to do the tsb? Is it covered under warranty? I have a 2011 dcsb tx pro.
     
  11. Dec 3, 2012 at 3:42 PM
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    Also what exactly does the tsb do for the springs?
     
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    covered under the 3yr36kmi warranty, gotta tell em it rides shitty when loaded down and you saw there is a tsb fix for that


    new leaf pack, and adds another leaf
     
  13. Dec 3, 2012 at 4:03 PM
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    Quick search shows it is for the 2005-2009 models. Is that the case? Or does it go through the 2011 model year? Sorry for all the questions guys. I'm still new to yotas!
     
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    '11s are covered. I didn't get it because I knew I was going to get a new leaf pack instead.
    This is Matt's '10 with TSB leafs 5100s all around and OME 884s (billies @ 0)
    with 265/75/16 BFG KM2s. A local member Josh (sierrahsky) with a lot of experience & I helped him install it (I mostly watched & learned but occasionally lent a hand).
     
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    Sweet thanks! Ive met Josh a few times. He is a great guy! Ive been following his FJ build too.
     
  16. Dec 4, 2012 at 11:23 AM
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    Ok. I got the process started to get the tsb. Hopefully have that done by the end of this week or sometime next week!
     
  17. Dec 4, 2012 at 11:31 AM
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    He got rear ended and now needs a new rear door & bumper :(
     
  18. Dec 4, 2012 at 11:47 AM
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    That sucks! I guess it makes the best time to upgrade though.
     
  19. Dec 4, 2012 at 7:56 PM
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    Gettin the tsb done tomorrow!
     
  20. Dec 4, 2012 at 8:46 PM
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    is the wheelers AAL you guys have/use quiet or does it get squeeky and rust easily?
     
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