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AAL vs Hellwig vs Sumo

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Marius, Jan 29, 2019.

  1. Feb 2, 2019 at 7:13 AM
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    elduder

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    Sumos are the easiest to install. AAL is not hard, but can be a pain by yourself. You should also get the alignment checked afterwards. Depending on the lift from the leaf and the cap you choose you may not need to lift the front.
     
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  2. Feb 2, 2019 at 7:52 AM
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    The best way I can describe how the Tacoma feels while unloaded and riding on the SS’s is like sitting on a hardtail mountain bike and riding up a curb. The front shock is great but you either get bucked forward or get ejected out of your seat when your back tire hits the curb.
     
  3. Feb 2, 2019 at 9:15 AM
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    Thank you for that insight! Hellwigs are off the list now for sure.
    I'll go with Sumos and when the time will come I just upgrade the whole suspension.
     
  4. Feb 2, 2019 at 9:16 AM
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    Big thanks to you all for helping the noob!
    :cheers:
     
  5. Feb 2, 2019 at 9:48 AM
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    Make sure you get the right Sumo springs. SSR 610-40 are for 05 t0 15, 5" tall. SSR 612-40 are for, 16 to 19 4" tall. You can use either, but with 610, you will be riding on them all the time, even unloaded.
     
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  6. Feb 5, 2019 at 9:30 PM
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    Dang! I've already placed an order for 610-40's as it had more reviews - more of them for the 3rd gen use. My truck will never truly be unloaded as the shell and bed platform stay in all the time.
    Does it matter that much?
    I can still cancel the order as it hasn't shipped yet.
     
  7. Feb 5, 2019 at 10:26 PM
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    If you are loaded all the time you are going to be on both springs if over 500 lbs. with the 612 they barely start touching at 500. With 610 they are loaded with no weight. 612 will have better articulation and ride with light load. 610 will have stiff right.
    What’s better for you?
    I have 612 and like the stock feel unloaded and can handle extra weight but not as much weight as 610 without more Sag and I’m ok with that I’m loaded less than half the time.
     
  8. Feb 20, 2019 at 5:37 PM
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    I am looking for some advice on which sumospring to get. I have a second GEN 4x4 and I am planning on having just about 1000 pounds loaded bed most of the time ( 400 for the camper shell 500-600 for stuff ). Any advice would be much appreciated.
     
  9. Feb 20, 2019 at 6:47 PM
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    I just installed the SSR 610-40 and love it! Easy install and have no complaints regarding the ride quality. It doesn't feel like Sumos are there.
    I also gained the inch of the lift, when empty (just the cap + sleeping/storage platform). No more bouncing when loaded either.
     
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  10. Feb 20, 2019 at 7:50 PM
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    Thanks. I will order the same!
     
  11. Dec 21, 2021 at 6:37 PM
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    I'm trying to avoid starting a new thread so I'll ask here to see what happens.
    I have a 2019 Sport 4x4 with around 225lbs constant weight from a cap and bed mat. I love the way it rides normally but the suspension is at the limits of what I think it should be for an unloaded truck. When I load up for camping I have enough weight that I bottom out quite a bit on any sort of highway dip or speed bump at low speeds. I want to fix that, because it's really a bummer trying to bounce across the country. I know my goals are somewhat conflicting but I will spell out what I want in hopes of getting close.
    1. I would like stock ride height.
    2. I would like similar to stock ride unloaded.
    3. I would like to be able to carry a full load without riding on the bump stops.
    4. I would like full range of suspension travel.
    From my research so far I see a few options. I can install air springs. This seems ideal but I have heard it can limit your travel. I can install helper springs but this will raise the truck and stiffen the ride. I can install sumo springs but this can also stiffen the ride and cause the rear to "buck". The icon rxt looks like a nice option, but also will raise the truck. I have done quite a bit of work to make my 285/70/17 tires fit without a lift because I like the reliability of stock height and also the ease of access to the bed. I would rather lift than sacrifice ride quality. If air bags won't screw anything up I would be inclined to go that direction but I had some on a lowered truck years back and they caused all sorts of problems
     
  12. Dec 22, 2021 at 2:37 AM
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    I'm going to get Roadmaster Active suspension. If my Taco ever comes!
     
  13. Dec 22, 2021 at 3:19 AM
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    If I ever bought a new Tacoma or another used one, a bed mat and Sumo Springs would be my first purchases. I have front and rears and never had a moments buyer's remorse. I have around 250 Lbs of tools and a bed mat all the time. I haul some heavy stuff around several times per month.
     
  14. Dec 23, 2021 at 7:11 AM
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    Have you noticed a change in the ride when not loaded?
     
  15. Dec 23, 2021 at 7:41 AM
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    I have never driven without the tools and mat. Even with the tools and mat in, sometimes, a poorly maintained railroad or rather sharp speed bumps can give me a bit of a jolt when the rears hit the bump. I had the backs on several months before I put on the fronts. I noticed that the fronts really smoothed things out, even Mrs JGO noticed and she is a start and drive kind of person.
     
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  16. Dec 23, 2021 at 1:49 PM
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    Use coupon code SUPERSALE2021 at checkout.

    Sumo Spring sale for anyone interested.
     
  17. Dec 23, 2021 at 4:04 PM
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    I like the Hellwig, used them on my 2015, will be using on my new truck. Towing a trailer and loading the bed
    I like the 990-EZ
     

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