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ABS issues on icy roads and tire size

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Fightnfire, Jan 6, 2015.

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Have you experienced ABS issues on icy roads?

Poll closed Feb 5, 2015.
  1. Stock tire size - I have NOT experienced ABS issues on icy roads

    28.7%
  2. Stock tire size - I HAVE experienced ABS issues on icy roads

    35.7%
  3. Oversized tire - I have NOT experienced ABS issues on icy roads

    20.9%
  4. Oversized tire - I HAVE experienced ABS issues on icy roads

    14.8%
  1. Jan 6, 2015 at 6:28 PM
    #1
    Fightnfire

    Fightnfire [OP] Recklessly tired

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    This poll is an attempt to get some basic data about who is and who isn't having ABS issues. After some light searching it seems that it is a somewhat accepted idea that a larger tire size can cause ABS issues including over sensitive and early engagement of the ABS system.

    Stock size tires - I have not experienced ABS issues on icy roads
    Stock size tires - I have experienced ABS issues on icy roads
    Oversized tires - I have not experienced ABS issues on icy roads
    Oversized tires - I have experienced ABS issues on icy roads

    2005-2014 Factory size tires:
    215/70 R15
    245/75 R16
    265/70 R16
    265/65 R17
    255/45 R18

    Please use these STOCK sizes to base your selection off of, anything larger is oversized.
     
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  2. Jan 6, 2015 at 6:30 PM
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    OZ-T

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    Mine has happened over 3 sizes
     
  3. Jan 6, 2015 at 6:31 PM
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    Fightnfire

    Fightnfire [OP] Recklessly tired

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    Including stock?
     
  4. Jan 6, 2015 at 6:32 PM
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    moondeath

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    I have oversized 265/75-16. ABS sucks as usual. Not sure about it being worse.
     
  5. Jan 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM
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    TXpro4X4

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    Have not had any problems. 265/70 R16
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  6. Jan 6, 2015 at 6:43 PM
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    HolyHandGrenade

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    I feel it's a tire issue. I had issues with the stock tires. I switched to Goodyear Authority 265/70/17 M&S's and never had an issue in snow. This year, I put on studded Firestone Winterforce snow tires to, hopefully, take care of the problem on ice.
     
  7. Jan 6, 2015 at 6:59 PM
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    PA452

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    I've had problems with mine. I guarantee it has nothing to do with tires though.

    ETA: Stock tire size.
     
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  8. Jan 6, 2015 at 7:01 PM
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    Fightnfire

    Fightnfire [OP] Recklessly tired

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    [​IMG]
     
  9. Jan 6, 2015 at 7:07 PM
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    OZ-T

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    Yep
     
  10. Jan 6, 2015 at 7:09 PM
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    landphil

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    Of course, the stock tires are horrible!
     
  11. Jan 6, 2015 at 7:10 PM
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    Fightnfire

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    The point isn't that the stock tires are horrible, the point is that while running them the ABS acted up.
     
  12. Jan 6, 2015 at 7:11 PM
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    I don't care what tires you have. If you have three wheels on dry pavement and one wheel hits an icy patch while you're on the brake at a very slow speed, the ABS should not kill your braking power to all four wheels. And mine has in the past. Not always repeatable, but it's done it many times in the 8 years I've owned it.
     
  13. Jan 6, 2015 at 7:11 PM
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    I agree the system is sensitive. But, if you get tires that will grip, you can compensate for the sensitivity.
     
  14. Jan 6, 2015 at 7:11 PM
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    I should have had a 5th option, ah well.
     
  15. Jan 6, 2015 at 7:12 PM
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    You should pick stock - had issues..
     
  16. Jan 6, 2015 at 7:20 PM
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    33yrsoftoys

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    Last winter OZ warned us all about this problem. Last winter I was all factory,, bran new. Dam near took my buddy's bumper out, not to mention my front end!!!! Left front on dirt, the other 3 on ice. Truck gave up on the ((traction tire), which would have stopped the truck easily, wasn't going 2-5 mph. Wouldn't stop! I missed him by inches! Should have listened to OZ better back then. Dam near got me killed today!!!
     
  17. Jan 6, 2015 at 7:42 PM
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    Yeah, I get where you are going with it. I'm slightly over stock, so "oversize" for me, with issues in slippery conditions at low speeds. I bought the truck used and haven't run stock size in slippery conditions, I put new Duratracs on the first fall before it snowed. I don't think the size much of a factor though, since larger tires will allow more circumferential difference in "slippage" before the system engages.
     
  18. Jan 6, 2015 at 9:53 PM
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  19. Jan 7, 2015 at 9:29 AM
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    I should have some info to add... My whole city is a skating rink atm. (Calgary, Alberta). I am on 3 month old duratracs, 285/70r17. Done some minor wheeling in it to get access to ice climbing, so driving on frozen rivers, open crossings, frozen mud, packed snow, half frozen gravel, and fresh snow. Overall I would say that the abs in our truck has too much authority, ie it can kick in too quickly in my mind. I'll do a little testing after work in my back alley (packed snow), and front Street (skating rink) to see what I get. I'll maybe even break out the go pro (if I can find it) at 60fps and let everyone analyze.

    Any specific stuff you guys want me to for and watch for? I'll also pull the abs fuse for a bit and see if I can do better than the system.
     
  20. Jan 7, 2015 at 9:37 AM
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