ABS on this truck is dangerous...

Sorry, I was talking about mostly BlueTs general hate for the drums.

 

He no want to bang de drums.

 

In USA we have brake drums....in soviet russia, drum breaks you.

 

I always feel so much better educated after catching up on this thread.

 

I started reading from the first post. The harder I tried I just couldn't stop.

 

Well nobody cares about your half ton and your trip to grocery store, Tacoma on the other hand can carry what its payload.
I don't buy trucks for display only, if it says it can carry 1000LB it better be.
Steep hills or not.
Tacoma can carry but definitely rear brakes leave a lot to desire.
My Point was that Colorado doing more work in exact same condition seemed to handled better when it came to brakes.
Just an observation.

 

You can't buy 10-34 at a grocery store

I don't buy trucks to display either? Who does that?

My comment was just that when it comes to exceeding payload limits, which you've preached to never doing before, talking about how great the brakes did is a bit off topic. Hit a good bump with chopped wood piled "cabin high" in a midsized truck and shit will break at some point. I don't think anyone is arguing against the disc brake concept on the Colorado... it is funny though that it still takes a similar distance to stop a Coloardo than a Tacoma for the 2016 model.

 

Finally got some snow on the ground and got to test it out a bit. Slick wet stuff too. Engaged the abs a couple times on both concrete and asphalt 2 and 4wd and they worked as they should in all cases.

If they ever do what people describe I'll have the event on my dash cam to post up here.

 

No you won't. You'll be too busy trying to put out the flames on your flesh after your gas tank caught fire from the impact from that train that hit you on the perfect downhill leading right to the tracks that messed up your trucks ABS system because of it's drum brakes. Once you're done extinguishing the flames you can pray to the Toyota gods for disc brakes to help you avoid such calamity in the future.

 

You are jumping to a conclusions prematurely.
Do you really think brakes overheating only happens when you severely overload truck? If that was true why is that all highways in mountains have runaway truck ramps, you think its only for overloaded trucks? Do you think people who drive in mountains simply overload their trucks and that is why they get special treatment from government building runaway ramps for them?

I don know where did you got idea that Tacoma with drum brakes stops better. I am going to steal image from @jonnyozero3
With the exception of trail boss on mud terrain tires, they all beat Tacoma by wide margin and even beat hydroboosted TRD system which is absolutely fantastic. Lets face it breaking system on Colorado is way better. and that is a fact, so is on Nissan Frontier.

 

A runaway ramp for a Tacoma... now I've heard everything.

I never said the Tacoma stops better. Thanks for continuing to jam words into peoples mouths on this site. Here's what I said:

Most people would call a couple of feet similar. Where is this wide margin you are ranting about? 125-131 feet for the 2016 Tacoma versus 123 feet-130 feet on the 2016 Colorado isn't a wide margin. Heck, I'd be willing to place a large wager that that margin isn't even statistically significant in anyway. Where are you dragging this information from. Your own chart doesn't support your conclusions, which are not facts, under braking 60-0 mph that the Colorado is "way better" at braking...

 

Sell it.

 

A runaway ramp is for failed brakes. Your conclusion of overloaded truck is inaccurate and shows you have not much of experience.

How is almost 10 feet similar?
TRD OR Tacoma does not count we are not arguing here about boosted vs non-boosted brakes. Trail edition with Mud terrain is also non standard configuration so all you have is Sr5 vs Two regular versions of Colorado so thats 132 vs 122/123
Drum fails on single pass by 10 feet. Keep breaking during a day and that difference will grow.
I find it funny that people get all so juzzup because Colorado could be better designed truck. Some people are so insecure.

 

BTW which overheating are we talking about here too? Are we talking about overheating the pads, the fluid, or the rotors. To be perfectly honest it's easy to overheat the pads on any stock truck. They aren't built for sever duty. Just drive aggressively around town and you can smell the pads on a 3/4 ton.

We aren't talking about failed brakes on an airbrake drum system. Last time I checked, our trucks have hydraulic brakes and weights that make it difficult to overheat the braking system to the point of failure without overheating the fluid first.

It's not ten feet. The best Tacoma stopping distance is within 3 feet of the best Colorado stopping distance. Plus, those aren't replicated numbers. Since you've bragged up your knowledge of science I'd hope you know how replication and statistical significance factor in to how much a few feet mean on that chart.

I don't care either way. Hey, I'm not the guy with +500 posts with the word "drum" in it. Sounds like someone is juzzup, whatever that means.

BTW I really mean good luck with your Colorado... or Titan... Either way I'm sure you'll be happy with it for what you do.

 

Put the autotrans into neutral after you get a little momentum going. Same with braking in snow, auto in neutral so the truck doesn't keep torqueing you along while you're trying to stop.

 

Well, today here in the buckeye state; the snow is measuring near half a foot. Roads have a complete covering of packed snow, and I REFUSE to dare let anyone except myself drive my 2008 4.0 trd 4x4 access cab with brand new Bfg at's anywhere!! The abs kicks on and no matter if the truck finds a patch of solid asphalt or not it will NOT stop whatsoever. It is absolutely dangerous, and if all other same generation Tacos are the same there should and there must b a recall on the ABS sensing system. This is my 3rd Tacoma, and is the only one that exhibits such troublesome behavior and it's not safe.

I just want you all who operate these trucks in snowy climates to be extremely cautious and to never let your loved ones operate your Tacoma without first teaching them how to handle the horrid braking when the abs turns on.

The ABS on our Tacomas is NOT like ABS on other brand vehicles. It is far more precarious border lining deadly.

 

Last month we got three at four inches that got compacted into ice pretty quickly, and the temps stayed below freezing, so the roads around here were super icy. I purposely went out looking to engage the abs, and it always acted exactly as expected for me. Worked perfectly in every type of stop, from speeds from 5 mph al the way to 60+ mph. I tried for 30 minutes plus to make it do something unexpected, but it never did. Whether that has to do with the Michelin AT2's ability to find traction or just the design of the abs, my experience is that the truck reacts exactly as expected.

 

Very good to hear Nickel. Maybe Toyota finally adjusted the ABS sending system as my truck is an 08'

 

Mine works fine too. I have an ABS disable switch as well but I only use it offroad in heavy mud with TRAC + ABS gets pissy.