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ABS rant

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by sean266, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. Feb 24, 2012 at 10:06 AM
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    This , and a beeper
     
  2. Feb 24, 2012 at 10:28 AM
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    Thanks for your input. I'm having a buddy re-calibrate the VSC on Monday
     
  3. Feb 24, 2012 at 11:19 AM
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    Go there with a 1/2 tank of gas and sit in the seat when the calibration is done
     
  4. Feb 24, 2012 at 5:44 PM
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    Can u elaborate on the reasoning for this?
     
  5. Feb 24, 2012 at 5:50 PM
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    You will be setting the zero points for the yaw sensor when the recalibration is done , as we all know , the " taco lean " is from the driver , gas tank etc all being on one side . You as the driver will always be in the seat when driving so it makes sense to have that weight there when zeroing the system , the 1/2 tank of gas is the average weight you would carry in fuel , so is basically a neutral allowance for gas weight .
     
  6. Feb 25, 2012 at 1:51 PM
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    NHTSA says in 2005:

    Ref: http://www.nhtsa.gov/DOT/NHTSA/NRD/Multimedia/PDFs/VRTC/ca/capubs/ABSperformancefinalreport.pdf

    Emphasis mine.

    Automaticalling disabling ABS if car go below 15kp/h (10mph), would be a good compromise if on/off switch is out of question. 5mph is way too low and even with that, ABS still kicks in. According to the owner manual, it says that ABS will be disabled if speed go below around 5mph.


    ABS system isn't mandatory, unlike seat belts and air bags. In fact, NHTSA backed off about it seeing that ABS didn't really help in lowering accident rate in all situations.

    In fact, from what you're saying, does that mean that around 30% of sold cars (new) that doesn't have ABS system are dangerous?

    According to NHTSA report, in 2009:

    Page 10:
    But, if cars are equipped with stability control, which my truck doesn't have one:

    Page 11:
    About overall performance of ABS system in fatal crash (remember that this report was made on 2009):

    However, overall effect in all type of crash seems in favor of ABS system:
    Ref: http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811182.PDF

    Conclusion: ABS isn't good on ice/snow and gravel roads and we should have a ABS disable switch, like ESP or ESC disable switch.
     
  7. Feb 25, 2012 at 5:39 PM
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    Great post ^^
     
  8. Feb 26, 2012 at 3:56 PM
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    Indeed!
     
  9. Mar 1, 2013 at 5:33 PM
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    Yup.
     
  10. Mar 2, 2013 at 6:40 AM
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    For people worried about disabling their ABS I don't think they can hold you responsible for a blown fuse. That kind of thing happens all the time.
     
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