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ABS sucks in snow

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Blueridge, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. Dec 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM
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    ABS is proven to INCREASE stopping distances on snow
     
  2. Dec 29, 2012 at 10:41 AM
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    I imagine it would if I was in a full on emergency stop slide. With the shitty oem tires that slip and slide in wet conditions it just makes it feel too sensitive to me. I was just trying to slow down before entering a school zone (from 45 to 15) and it engaged.

    Mine is a Prerunner. I had a base model before this one and I don't think I ever had the ABS engage on it. I was wondering if maybe Toyota had modified it after all the run away acceleration accusations.
     
  3. Dec 29, 2012 at 10:42 AM
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    Yes, driving around on some pretty bad snow-packed and icy roads in general over the past week. It just brakes and stops great in those conditions.
     
  4. Dec 29, 2012 at 10:44 AM
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    SR5 , Offroad or Sport Prerunner ?

    Mine is an '09 , the unintended acceleration BS started after I bought my truck so I think that kills that theory
     
  5. Dec 29, 2012 at 10:44 AM
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    Do you have an Offroad ?
     
  6. Dec 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM
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    OEM tires?

    2012 Prerunner SR5
     
  7. Dec 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM
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    I had heard, but had to go test it out myself :D My only previous snow driving experience was in my '07 OR that was 2wd and unmodded, slipping and sliding all over the place. 4wd in my current truck, abs off, and good tires was very impressive. 4wd is definitely the only way to go as I've been learning since getting my current truck. Never getting a 2wd again.
     
  8. Dec 29, 2012 at 11:07 AM
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    2102 Off Road with a little over 1300 miles on it and the factory Ragged Fails, which actually seem to do well except for deep snow, which is to be expected.
     
  9. Dec 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM
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    I've got OEM tires (still) and found that my ABS is great in the snow and ice. I guess your mileage will vary.

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    Interesting

    I wonder if the brake booster in the Ofrroads plays some part in this equation
     
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    What model truck do you have ?
     
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    Once so far here, I was amazed at how quickly it stopped. I remember watching a pickup truck comparison and the Tacoma stopped 15-20+ feet quicker than any other truck. Ranger, Canyon, Frontier, Ridgeline etc.

    It is too sensitive in the snow/ice but I spend 95ish% of the miles on pavement with two kids in the back for lots of it.
     
  13. Dec 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM
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    Maybe its different on the 2012 an newers? My '11 tx pro (same as OR) the abs seems very sensitive and almost instantly kicks in in the snow, even in the desert too which is where most of my wheeling takes place.
     
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    Maybe. I suppose the ABS system may be able to pulse differently, improving its snow & ice performance. Tire selection will probably make a bigger difference, though.

    The best way to check would be to take a pair of new trucks (OR & non-OR, 2H only) off the lot and test them on the same stretch of snowy road. At the same speed and at the same point on the road, stomp on the pedal and see the difference in stopping distance. The same test could be run with the driver trying to threshold brake to the point of ABS activation, but it'd be much more difficult to regulate the amount and duration of pedal input. If someone could compare an OR and non-OR with the same tires, that'd be even better.

    I just haven't had enough snow time to have an opinion of how my stock '12 OR stops on snow and ice. On dry or wet pavement, the truck stops very well.
     
  16. Dec 29, 2012 at 1:20 PM
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    I have an Offroad. I was driving around today in the new snow and the ABS kicked in today a few times when I wasn't even going real fast nor stomping on the brakes. I also need new rear brake shoes so I don't know if that has anything to do with it. The one time I stopped well through the stop sign with the ABS doing it's thing. It's not a good feeling when the pedal is vibrating and you're still sliding forward.
     
  17. Dec 29, 2012 at 1:27 PM
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    I find myself constantly looking for escape routes when driving on snow & ice, no matter the vehicle. I do that regardless of conditions, but snow & ice make it much more important. As long as you keep your speed down, you may be able take a Tacoma over a curb with no damage. Better a scuffed sidewall than something more exciting.
     
  18. Dec 29, 2012 at 1:52 PM
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    Very sensitive abs.....
     
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    ABS is designed to not lock up the brakes in slippery conditions. It is not designed to reduce stopping distances. It is amazing how many people do not realize this and think they can drive like it is dry out.
     
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    "[N]ot lock up the brakes", which means that the tires are still turning enough to possibly allow steering around an obstacle and maintaining better control of the vehicle. The issue being discussed is whether the Tacoma's ABS activates at too low of a threshold, which may needlessly increase stopping distances.

    What often gets people into trouble with ABS is forgetting to steer while applying maximum pressure to the brake pedal. If you aren't doing that during panic stops in an ABS equipped vehicle, you aren't using the brake system as intended. Failing to steer and pumping the brakes in an effort to threshold brake are the usual errors.
     
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